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Jesse Brown, call your office!
TVO host makes accusations, then ducks out of town

I always thought the issue of neutrality on the Internet was one of extremes.

I thought this because no one I've ever met is neutral on the issue; you're either for a free, open web, or you support the ISPs accepting pay for superior service. No in-betweens. 

But then, on Monday night at saveournet's Open Internet forum at the Gladstone, came a new stance: the off-topic, finger-wagging, politicizing, self-aggrandizing middle ground.

This was courtesy of Jesse Brown, the self-styled humourist behind the TVO program Search Engine.

He weighed in on the issue saying publications like NOW Magazine are alienating people from the web freedom issue because it's so "far left."

I asked Brown what he meant by this, but he's taken an extended lunch break, it seems. So, with him making the accusatory remarks then skipping town, I'm forced to come up with the following theories:

1) He erroneously thought NOW, a media partner, booked the panelists on the discussion that night. It didn't;

Or,

2) He's read NOW coverage on the issue and somehow thinks it has dragged the discussion into a political realm, which he opposes.

Until he emerges from his shell, I won't know exactly what he meant.

Regardless!

I, for one, would love to hear what the other side - those who support giving ISPs more control - thinks on this issue. The majority of times, forums such as this are preaching to the converted. Everyone in the room - and in their right mind, in my opinion - agrees the Internet should remain an egalitarian network, where every site has equal access to users.

But what does the pro-throttling group think? What are their arguments?

Well, dude, we just don't know. While pro-neutrality advocates scream and shout, the throttlers are generally silent (aside from the occasional dumb "dumb pipe" comments).

Could it be Brown, in an attempt to distinguish himself from the chorus of saveournet support, decided to start pointing fingers within the neutral camp?

If anyone's confusing the issue and making it harder for the unitiated to participate in, it's him. Blaming is no way to invite the greater public into a debate.

But he's discrediting the points made by those in the debate - NOW wasn't the only target here - by assigning a political value to them - essentially saying, "of course you think a certain way, you're a left wing zealot!" 

Demeaning, at best.

The last thing net neutrality issue needs is a gatekeeper deciding which people can weigh in. Like the Internet, the net neutrality debate should be free for all to join in. 

Jun 11, 2009 at 12:36 AM
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Comments
Posted by Aren on 06/11/2009, 01:26 PM
I can't wait to here Jesse's side. I'm sure it will be more interesting than yours.

Posted by Mike on 06/11/2009, 02:01 PM
Agreed. I seriously doubt Jesse won't respond to this tripe.

Posted by hey on 06/11/2009, 02:08 PM
Wow, what an embarassing article. Way to go, NOW.

Posted by trolley on 06/11/2009, 02:11 PM
The only thing demeaning is your condescending tone.

Posted by Marc Arbour on 06/11/2009, 02:13 PM
Let me get this straight -- Josh Errett has written a piece of opinion journalism based on an opinion that he has not parsed.

He is right -- blaming is NOT a way to invite the greater public into the debate. Though neither is an unparsed, vaguely contextualized piece of opinion journalism with a poorly expressed opinion that is reliant on an opinion that the author admits that he doesn't understand.

Intrepid assignment editing, Now Magazine! Onwards, to glory!

Posted by Andrew on 06/11/2009, 02:26 PM
Wow. It's pieces like this that make me regret reading NOW.

Posted by Jesus on 06/11/2009, 03:09 PM
Wow, NOW, way to build a ridiculous straw man argument based on the very good point that there is some cross-spectrum political support for this issue.

This writer has apparently decided to take smart criticism personally, and launch a personal and ill-informed attack. He sounds like a teenager.

Posted by Dave on 06/11/2009, 03:32 PM
So, basically, you've written an entire article saying Jesse Brown didn't return your call?

Don't you have anything better to do?

Posted by OUTRAGE on 06/11/2009, 03:37 PM
This is an outrage! I'm so pissed off! JESSE IS A GOD and how dare you criticize him!

Who the fuck is Jesse Brown

Posted by Justin on 06/11/2009, 08:29 PM
Jesse Brown is an idiot, but this article makes you even idiot-er. Congratulations, you're king idiot among the idiots. Your prize is you work for the shittier of the shitty alt-weeklies.

PS quit twitter immediately you don't know how to work it

Posted by Editorial or newstory? on 06/11/2009, 08:39 PM
I was there, and i don't think you understood his point. He was aligning the various media outlets that participated in this open forum with the left, and wondered whether this would create a political bias for the movement. When Steve Anderson clarified that they did ask for representatives from the various media outlets and politicians of all stripes, I think he was pleased to see that the movement is trying to be neutral.

I don't think he needed to clarify what he meant by right leaning because it was quite obvious what he was saying. Perhaps you just felt baited by him aligning you with the left, and you felt that you needed to chastise him. I'm pretty sure he's going to talk about it on Search Engine, and hopefully, he will address your concerns. In any case, you could have written a better article about what actually happened with some well thought out criticism rather than a recap about how you were slighted. If NOW readers wanted that, they would read Raymi's oxymoronic self-agrandization of her inarticulateness and nerd baiting on her blog.

Posted by Gamba on 06/11/2009, 11:30 PM
Joshua, if you "would love to hear what the other side - those who support giving ISPs more control - thinks on this issue", then visit the fricking Web site. You may not know this, but the CRTC is having a ginormous consultation on this issue, with many interveners of diverse points -- unlike the net neut love-in the other night, where like-minded no-YOU'RE-righters failed to generate heat, light, or much else. And, best of all, it's all on the public record! So go forth and learn.

Posted by Gamba on 06/11/2009, 11:33 PM
Mind you, I was there too and Jesse Brown's assertions -- and that prissy tone! -- were genuinely dumb. Regulation of ISPs, a libertarian position? Um, no, government regulation isn't exactly how libertarian works. Sometimes, policy positions *are* political, Jesse. Funny how that works.

Posted by wonka on 06/12/2009, 01:15 PM
Now -- the question is -- will Josh Errett respond to the comments in this thread -- or has he gone on vacation too? Who will write the condescending piece if Josh does not comment?

Wowsa nowsa! The tiniest, most fragile sand castles.

Posted by alanTdot on 06/12/2009, 01:52 PM
The more things change .......

Posted by Blaise Alleyne on 06/13/2009, 01:21 AM
@wonka: net neutrality != government regulation. You can be legitimately concerned about a lack of neutrality that steps from the duopoly, but seek to provide incentives for a more competitive marketplace instead of seeking government regulation. To scoff at net neutrality as a libertarian concern suggests that you haven't read what many libertarians have to say.

@Joshua: "I, for one, would love to hear what the other side - those who support giving ISPs more control - thinks on this issue."

Um... that's nice, I'm sure most people would, but... what does that have to do with Jesse's comments?

He was suggesting that net neutrality ought to be a big tent issue, that conservatives shouldn't feel alienated or feel like it's an issue for the "left." He wasn't suggesting that you picked the panelists. He wasn't criticizing NOW either. He was saying that NOW, the NDP, Rabble.ca and many of the sponsors and participants are typically identified with the left. He wasn't asking, "where are the pro-throttlers?" He was asking, "where is the support from net neutrality from the right?" Or, more importantly, "why would the saveournet organizers set it up as an issue for the left instead of putting up a big tent?"

Rambling on about pro-throttlers and how you had nothing to do with selecting the panelists makes it seem like you haven't the slightest understanding of his comments.

Think twice before hitting publish? Maybe, three times?

Posted by Blaise Alleyne on 06/13/2009, 01:22 AM
oops, @wonka should be @gamba

Posted by wonka on 06/13/2009, 11:33 AM
Ah, Josh has indeed gone AWOL. Somebody quick, write a bitter column about it, lest NOW mag be kettle-black!

Posted by Jonathan on 06/13/2009, 01:57 PM
@Blaise.

If Jesse Brown wanted more right wing voices in the debate, why is criticizing NOW? Why not criticize the ones that didn't show up?

Where was Matthew Ingram? Or any of those Globe guys?

I don't know who writes tech for the Post, but where was she?

He's barking up the wrong tree, it looks like.

Posted by Randy H on 06/13/2009, 10:19 PM
Josh is washed up new media. Time to move on, all bridges burned.

Posted by Blaise Alleyne on 06/14/2009, 04:33 PM
@Jonathan: how was he criticizing NOW? His point was that the organizers were potentially alienating those on the right by making it seem like a lefty issue. That wasn't a criticism of NOW.

Steve's response was that NOW, Rabble.ca and the NDP were the only organizations that responded and agreed to come, not that the organizers didn't try to reach out to others. Jesse's response was: "#saveournet has work to do in making more people care about NN and feel welcomed by their org. But they seem willing to do it."

I don't see how this was a criticism of NOW... It was a question of tactics and "work to be done" on the part of saveournet.

Posted by UnionSt on 06/16/2009, 04:31 PM
Brown just posted his latest Search Engine podcast all about the "pwnage" of NN by "the far left" (Sarah Palin calls them, "the socialists" in our House of Commons they're known as, "the people that introduced Bill C-398 - the Net Neutrality Bill") and, remarkably, it's missing any interviews with spokespeople from the "not far left" on the issue. He rehashes his accusations about Save Our Net (his problem with the 'Al Jazeera in Canada' email is a fair criticism but no need for a tantrum), followed by something about "Issue bundling." It seems he didn't think to actually approach any of these mythical right-wingers - the delicate people the inhospitable Commies at Save the Net ignored - for an actual interview on the subject. God knows their views are not represented in the mainstream media.

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