You know what else is over? NOW Magazine. Your non-stories have been getting worse and worse in recent years, but this really takes the cake. Wow. I'm done reading. I'll bet many others stopped long ago...

Black to the Future...

Hipster, as used in the 1940s, referred to aficionados of jazz, in particular modern jazz, which became popular in the early 40's. The hipster adopted the lifestyle of the jazz musician, including some or all of the following: manner of dress, slang terminology, use of cannabis and other drugs, relaxed attitude, sarcastic humor, self-imposed poverty, and relaxed sexual codes. Early hipsters were generally white youths adopting many of the ways of urban blacks of the time, but later hipsters often copied the early ones without knowing the origins of the culture.

Kate C. is a hipster, hands down.

"being cynical about shit and listening to Interpol"

CYNICAL –adjective 1. like or characteristic of a cynic; distrusting or disparaging the motives of others. 2. showing contempt for accepted standards of honesty or morality by one's actions, esp. by actions that exploit the scruples of others. 3. bitterly or sneeringly distrustful, contemptuous, or pessimistic.

I really don't know any hipsters who are cynical. Most hipsters I know, and I know a lot, are warm, intelligent, talented, and well versed in the movement of commodity consumerism... Or they like to party, dance, engage in each other's social worlds and expand their own. Perhaps blogNGR doesn't leave Brooklyn, and has three friends who wear tight pants, and are cynical.

"Blognigger (ironic decontextualizing of the word "nigger" is extremely hipster)... BlogNGR (his slightly less offensive yet vowel-challenged alias)"

First, how do you know this is ironic? Are you assuming he's white? I'm assuming your white because you wrote that. And NGR... let me explain something to you. If you found it offensive, how does the shortening make it less offensive? Is the referent obfuscated now? And, what you call vowel challenged, I call a convention. Such as Yahweh = YHWH, or how about this one, you're a hipster, you should know this: MasterKraft = MSTRKRFT. And you mention MGMT... still so ironic?

Wow... and we haven't nearly gotten half way down the article. I cannot believe you commended an "essay" as you call it, on the basis of it sounding right. Are you a journalist? Or do you just blog on paper?

"Hipsterism began in the early 2000s, when the youth reaction to George Dubya was one of cynicism." Is this a fact? Is this your theory? It's certainly an assetion. It should read, "tight pants came into style for urban dance-culture around 2003, when electroclash came to replace the ultimate demise of rave. A postmodern pastiche of the range of early electro styles."

the hipster response was "What the fuck is Vanity Fair?"

Is this a direct quote? Was it a collective roar heard across all quasi coffee-bookstores, and American Apparels around the world?

Also: The meaning of hegemony, I know you quoted a blogger you had interviewed, but you printed it.

"...Dominant groups in society, including fundamentally but not exclusively the ruling class, maintain their dominance by securing the 'spontaneous consent' of subordinate groups, including the working class, through the negotiated construction of a political and ideological consensus which incorporates both dominant and dominated groups." (Strinati, 1995: 165)

If hipsters (whoever these mythical creatures are) are so powerful, why do you refer to them as a flash in the pan, an ash in the sand? Shouldn't the country be run by hipsters? (and please don't respond that Obama is a hipster, or worse... Harper! I knew he drank PBR!)

I visited sharkvsbear.com, unfortunately no "barely age-of-majority female willingly posing on the bathroom floor of some club" to be seen. I did see the subjects of your interviews, however. The ones who spoke so disdainfully of photoblogs, and hipsters.

Obama is the hipster candidate? I couldn't imagine a handful of hipsters even being eligible to vote for Obama, considering it was a US election. Maybe people, not just hipsters, are happy to see some change, and a charismatic leader. I think that even if he sits on his hands for the next four years, he has at least inspired people, not just hipsters, to a collective sense of relief that the eight years of political, social, cultural, and enforced control are perhaps at an end. I remember Obama thanking Blacks, whites, Gays, Straights, Disabled, and Not Disabled... I don't remember him mentioning Hipsters in his acceptance speech.

It is amazing how the cover story could be such sensational fluff by a linguistically inept 'writer'.

as someone who some people consider a hipster, this article is weak. i can't believe now dedicated an entire themed issue to this. the best part of this whole theme is that it does no part to at least promote "hipster" artists, musicians, restaurants. you interview a party goer, a party promoter, and a party photographer...couldn't you have at least interviewed a DJ/band/gallery owner/venue owner whose parties that these hipsters go to and pose for photos at, for a better story, rather than a rehash of the adbusters story? you're basically interviewing the middlemen in this dialogue and doing fuck all to at least promote the stuff you're dismissing. other than talking and writing about the same old same old (this is in regard to the entire issue, if you're going to theme out, at least do it big). Health: Adria Vasil "Hipster With a Conscience" Food: Where do hipsters eat? "Another story about some resto in a place that we're going to talk about how scary it is to go, but how good it is to eat". Music: Let's Go To War "Last Gang tries to capitalize on "Electro rap" with johnny come latelies to the scene...oh wait you sort of did that. Politics: Paul Terefenko: Super Cool Caring Hipster Guy somewhat ambivalent of the poverty movement. Style: well you got that right

So you got style and music, sort of...

Pendar's comment comes off as sour grapes. Some of Errett's ideas are a little underdeveloped, but his contextualization of hipsterism in terms of the Bush/Obama presidency is really interesting. That you so grossly missed the point of this article is frustrating. Hipsterism started out as cynicism but Errett is claiming that cynicism is NOT what it's about anymore, hence, your "warm" hipster friends. There are no shortage of young women and men willing to strike hypersexual poses for S vs. B. and linking to your own blog - about HIPSTERS who make music - makes your response seem defensive, not objective.

Calling it a "fluff" piece and Errett's writing "inept" is overly critical. A bit mean, really.

On the whole, though, I agree that NOW could have done more with this issue or better yet, left it alone to begin with. My mom, for example, doesn't understand this. I asked her.

as someone who some people consider a hipster, this article is weak. i can't believe now dedicated an entire themed issue to this. the best part of this whole theme is that it does no part to at least promote "hipster" artists, musicians, restaurants. you interview a party goer, a party promoter, and a party photographer...couldn't you have at least interviewed a DJ/band/gallery owner/venue owner whose parties that these hipsters go to and pose for photos at, for a better story, rather than a rehash of the adbusters story? you're basically interviewing the middlemen in this dialogue and doing fuck all to at least promote the stuff you're dismissing. other than talking and writing about the same old same old (this is in regard to the entire issue, if you're going to theme out, at least do it big). Health: Adria Vasil "Hipster With a Conscience" Food: Where do hipsters eat? "Another story about some resto in a place that we're going to talk about how scary it is to go, but how good it is to eat". Music: Let's Go To War "Last Gang tries to capitalize on "Electro rap" with johnny come latelies to the scene...oh wait you sort of did that. Politics: Paul Terefenko: Super Cool Caring Hipster Guy somewhat ambivalent of the poverty movement. Style: well you got that right

So you got style and music, sort of...

Pendar is worked up over the defamation of hipsters, I wonder what his definition of one is. I've never really heard any recent positive definitions, so I'm interested to know just what he's defending.

Also, NOW - give me a break. The picking apart of hipsters is SO SAFE to do now, that's why you finally did it. Where was your intelligent, counter-voice when you were perputating the anti-accomplished point-of-view?

wait, why are we all supposed to hate and deny the existance of hipsters again? i don't see what the problem is, was, or ever will be. it's just a word, and yet people get so defensive. if everyone embraced it, you know, it wouldn't mean anything.

the point here is though, like every incarnation of 'counter-culture', hipsterdom has been bought out - and that sucks. whether you love or hate hipsters, you can't argue with it.

Pendar is worked up over the defamation of hipsters, I wonder what his definition of one is. I've never really heard any recent positive definitions, so I'm interested to know just what he's defending.

Also, NOW - give me a break. The picking apart of hipsters is SO SAFE to do now, that's why you finally did it. Where was your intelligent, counter-voice when you were perputating the anti-accomplished point-of-view?

Pendar is worked up over the defamation of hipsters, I wonder what his definition of one is. I've never really heard any recent positive definitions, so I'm interested to know just what he's defending.

Also, NOW - give me a break. The picking apart of hipsters is SO SAFE to do now, that's why you finally did it. Where was your intelligent, counter-voice when you were perputating the anti-accomplished point-of-view?

i love when people get pissed about being called a name they know they are.

eva's kinda right though,( i'm old, so i think that means i'm not a hipster, or just ten times more pathetic for hanging out with them), i was 20 a long time ago, before lastnightsparty.com, before american apparel, hell, it was before the iPod, and I STILL took pictures with my friends at clubs and acted a fool, drank GURU (cause Red Bull wasn't here), and hated on everything while desperately trying to conform to all the other vapid nothings around me. it's just a time in life. trying to assign it so much meaning is the lame part, don't you think?

Trying to tie it into Obama's election campaign is a stretch no?

that gen X shit was whiny and lame and they were lazy -----(ed.) just like these hipsters as far as I remember, I was only 15 at the height, and a big gn'r fan which was seen as really uncool then. what i remember mostly is all the things you assign in this article to hipsters, they were disenfranchised, fed up, cynical, and above all really lazy.

this is what happens over and over when they economy bottoms out, we start hating on anything excessive. the 90s were poor and a paired down reaction to the excess of the 80s, which was also seen as meaningless fluff. the 70s were a reaction to the hippie ideals of the 60s that got no one anywhere but miserable with fantastic beats (georgio moroder anyone?) we made a lot of money in the last decade, and the spoiled youth are a product of that.

now we're poor and the boomers are getting old and expensive. 20 year olds acting a fool with cameras, getting drunk in bars,is nothing new, whether they'll be bloated on money and drugs, or excessive, or colourful, that's all that will change.

if you think they believe in nothing now, wait until there's nothing to achieve at all, not even fame on the internet, then shit's gonna get real bleak.

here's my prediction for the future: - people are going to start dressing in "neutrals" and words like "minimalist" will be thrown around liek crazy. -Drinking will continue but partying will be saved for large once a month ordeals. Ecstasy/MDMA is going to replace coke completely. -Art will somehow matter more, and people will start to value originality again. -a lot of this crazy supply we have going on all fronts will cease as demand increases. duh.

but you know what? 20 year olds will still be air heads who think of them selves as different while they try desperately to fit in.

It's going to be a great time for music coming up, cause the cream always rises to the top, but I think it's a little pompous to forget even for a second, that shit doesn't float.

and that's my two cents on this one. love this article. it's making so many people mad. better than nothing.

Anna Von

All the hipsters get their panties in a bunch and attempt to pick apart the article/writer as they panic to find a new 'scene' to mindlessly latch on to.

Agreed about the panties.

Why do hipsters get so mad when anyone even mentions the word? Why can't we talk about this? Oh right. Because self-realization is not hipster.

Probably a Hipster, Devon Hyland... did you not read my comment? I don't believe in the term hipster. and how can you get worked up over the defamation of anything.

the point of my comment, so all can hear, was to criticize what NOW calls journalism. The writer, who ought to have trouble calling himself that, yes.. writing fluff. these armchair theories are BS and you all know it.

there is no hipster. there is only the fluid expression of self across a large field of urban youth.

check your self. and read carefully and re-read before you think you know or even aspire to nderstand what i'm saying.

"here's my prediction for the future: - people are going to start dressing in "neutrals" and words like "minimalist" will be thrown around liek crazy. -Drinking will continue but partying will be saved for large once a month ordeals. Ecstasy/MDMA is going to replace coke completely. -Art will somehow matter more, and people will start to value originality again."

Anna, you are spot on! And this argument can be tied into Obama and the economy... b/c it's like the 90s recession and Bill Clinton... in steps E, big parties, and love vibes. (live band dubstep?)

I never saw it that way when I wrote a critique of the VW Routan ad that pictures aging hipsters sadly drowning in nostalgia, but yeah, you could even say that the very commercialism that has all but saturated hipster culture itself sounded the death knell in this ad. (Click on my name to read the ad critique on my blog Never Never Mind.)

This entire piece hinges on the assumption that there is but one singular hipster identity that is universally disengaged and cynical. This is patently not the case -- and this has been demonstrated many times by the thinking and caring members of the various party "scenes" here in our fair city. To write off the efforts of these folks (or the artistic successes of those they might like to party with) is not just simply unfair -- it's indulging in the very cynicism this piece purports to decry.

If this is such a hopeful era of change as the author assets, why are we bitterly ganging up on a bunch of kids simply because they'd rather see Soulwax than Shania on a Saturday night? Utterly pitiful.

This article appears shamelessly borrowed off shedoesthecity.com. Jen McNeely published a more introspective and timely story 'Deconstructing Hip' back in October. LAME.

This is suuuuuuuuch old news. By NOW do you mean THEN?

Pendar: You are obviously a hipster and touchy bout this piece.

This is suuuuuuuuch old news. By NOW do you mean THEN?

Oh, they're still around. They've just been renamed white people.

Hipsters are fascinating people.

People that dress the same, listent to the same music, act the same way.. ect, ect. This article is humourously spot on.

This trend sorta reminds me of jocks and princesses in high school. It's all the same. Only now, it's a MEGA consumerized business and it's in our face 24/7(*like, everywhere)

But my point is... let kids be kids!! Let them waste their(parents) money and take drugs and party all night. Every generation has its share of teens(adults) who rebel. Let them make their mistakes now so they won't later on in life. Plus, self-expresion is good. But not when they mimic eachother. That's the part i don't like.

Be yourself people.. but most of all, be nice. And if you're already nice, well then... be nice to non-hipsters. Then maybe.. just maybe... we can unite and not even have this word exist.

Still, this article strikes me as better written than 99% of NOW articles. Keep up the good work Joshua!

The one problem I have with your dismissing comment, Sketches, 'let kids be kids' is that these are not kids. The hipster ranges, from the 18-year-old Toronto partygoer, who has been citing Smiths lyrics, writing a blog and giving blow jobs since she was 14, to the 35-year-old leather jacketed musician (or musician's friend) who still says please at his parent's dining room table, yet passionately dismisses politics and burns through so many younger lovers, his head is not only blowing up, it's spinning.

So if there is so much range, what IS a hipster? Is it defined by the look -- the skinny jean -- or by the attitude -- the so-called cynicism. My opinion is that Obama did nothing to change either trend, although I wouldn't called it cynicism -- that implies there is thought behind it. Two words: indifferent and flippant. The loss of individualism. But this is what every 'young person' trend has been defined by, no? Except that now we're getting old.... I digress.

Josh, thanks for at least continuing the discussion. Too bad Wrongbar's still going to be packed tonight, the DJs will still wait until 4 a.m. to go on, and hipsters will be eyeballing the crowd to see who's there and whether they should be looking like they're having fun.

The one problem I have with your dismissing comment, Sketches, 'let kids be kids' is that these are not kids. The hipster ranges, from the 18-year-old Toronto partygoer, who has been citing Smiths lyrics, writing a blog and giving blow jobs since she was 14, to the 35-year-old leather jacketed musician (or musician's friend) who still says please at his parent's dining room table, yet passionately dismisses politics and burns through so many younger lovers, his head is not only blowing up, it's spinning.

So if there is so much range, what IS a hipster? Is it defined by the look -- the skinny jean -- or by the attitude -- the so-called cynicism. My opinion is that Obama did nothing to change either trend, although I wouldn't called it cynicism -- that implies there is thought behind it. Two words: indifferent and flippant. The loss of individualism. But this is what every 'young person' trend has been defined by, no? Except that now we're getting old.... I digress.

Josh, thanks for at least continuing the discussion. Too bad Wrongbar's still going to be packed tonight, the DJs will still wait until 4 a.m. to go on, and hipsters will be eyeballing the crowd to see who's there and whether they should be looking like they're having fun.

but why do these F-n comments always get posted twice...? just sayin.

I'm really proud to have been part of this story, and proud of all who dared to speak their piece of mind. The argument was insightful and well researched, far more than the Adbusters article that inspired it.

Props and kudos to everyone involved.

Just to clear a few things up, I posed as the 'hipstah' guy, whom, coincidentally I share some similarites to , but as a model, I'm just portraying a stereotype, as all should realize.

In terms of musical likeness, I've learned to appreciate hip hop but growing up felt it not to be my place, maybe because i went to a junior high school that bordered on the Jamaican ghetto. Blaxploitation and the coolness that came with it was still alien to me and my sheltered mind and I couldn't imagine why I would not want to be anyone but me. Why hip hop was hype was confusing as well, and I've only figured this out recently.

As far as fashion, I've sported pretty much all items listed in the article, hell, the pants, jacket and kicks are mine even, but I've never sat down to bottle service. However Patron is quite nice and have been a tequila fan for my adult life.

I actually don't hook in to many tv shows, and don't watch The Wire, but I've heard it's pretty good. I've had the pleasure of interviewing A-Trak, meeting Kid Sister and Lupe. I appreciate their music, talents, effort and hard work. The Cool Kids are pretty good too. I was a bit put off by the name at first, but they grew on me. As far as i know about DJ AM, I heard he's gayer than bicycle shorts.

And that is that!

THE END

Yeah, I see a lot of points in this article being completely overlooked in self-righteous outrage, which is a shame. The ideas may not be particularly brilliant or original, but they're still provocative and had me thinking. I thought the Bush/Obama paradigm had merit. I kind of look like a hipster (bangs, skinny jeans, big headphones) but don't necessarily identify myself as such, and probably a lot of those assumed hipster kids out there are just going around wearing the stuff sold in stores because that's the fashion. You have to keep in mind that each and every single one of those kids (and adults) have a brain performing independent thought on a daily basis, and are probably only sharing with the world about 6% of what goes through it like the rest of us.

Except Pendar. You're a FCKNG sheep. Baaaaaaa.

Yeah, I see a lot of points in this article being completely overlooked in self-righteous outrage, which is a shame. The ideas may not be particularly brilliant or original, but they're still provocative and had me thinking. I thought the Bush/Obama paradigm had merit. I kind of look like a hipster (bangs, skinny jeans, big headphones) but don't necessarily identify myself as such, and probably a lot of those assumed hipster kids out there are just going around wearing the stuff sold in stores because that's the fashion. You have to keep in mind that each and every single one of those kids (and adults) have a brain performing independent thought on a daily basis, and are probably only sharing with the world about 6% of what goes through it like the rest of us.

Except Pendar. You're a FCKNG sheep. Baaaaaaa.

This is, of course, a rather arbitrary article overall.

This is, of course, a rather arbitrary article overall.

Can we all get beyond this peg-hole mentality and just relax ? Why does everyone need to be pigeonholed all the time in Toronto ? NOW seems to be a great supporter of this shit.......

Unfortunately hispters are still alive and posting all over the internet. For reference see the pig that is Raymi the Minx (http://raymitheminx.com/)

i blog on paper exclusively.... the taste and feel is just exquisite

i blog on paper exclusively.... the taste and feel is just exquisite

how did these articles fail to mention Vice Magazine? If theres one place that needs to be burned to the ground..

what's a hipster? Do you mean young people? I live in East York man.

Great discussion and view points on this topic. Kudos to everyone! ANd thanks Now for the article. At first i thought it was a bad idea to print this artcile(*it IS a form of pigeonholding and stereotyping people) but then again, who "doesn't" stereotype. Just listen to the lyrics of "Q The Musical"(haha.. great puppet show)

InRobotDreams: Its good to hear you at least semi-adknowledge that you're a hipster(you certainly described yourself as you to a tee) But also you "denying" yourself as one, is what any normal hipster would have done anyway, cause that's "cool" to do. Not care.

Goon: I believe this article did mention Vice magazine. I think.. UM?: Exactly.. what IS a hipster. I guess anyone that dressed and acts the same way that society around them does. Which i guess happens every decade. It's a part of our consumer life really. So we should get over it and accept it. And no, it doesn't just target the youth. Everyone get's sucked into marketing. But also everyone is an individual and creative. It's a really hard topic to disect really. If it needs to be disected at all.

I'm astonished by the fact that the article implies that hipsters will simply disappear. That's utter nonsense.

Just like every other subculture in the last 100 years, it will evolve into something else when it hits the mainstream. There will ALWAYS be a subculture. It's a natural, organic process too. Hipsters from 5 years ago were fairly different from today's. The mainstream exposure just accelerates the evolution.

Five years from now, there will still be hipsters. They'll just go to different places at night, wear different clothes, listen to different music, and be labeled something other than "hipster". The attitude will still be there, even if expressed differently.

wOW.. i wonder if this article is going to do damage to the "scene" as a whole! :( Will people just rub it off their shoulders and ignore it, or come up with a whole new scene?

Nevertheless, i think it's great kids(+adults) are creative in general. I just don't agree with our societies consumeristic ways and the media in general(*shoving sex and drugs down our throats irresponsibly. Of COURSE people are going to want it)

But in the end, we're human. We'll always "want", "be", "copy" and "need" things. It's a fact of life.

wOW.. i wonder if this article is going to do damage to the "scene" as a whole! :( Will people just rub it off their shoulders and ignore it, or come up with a whole new scene?

Nevertheless, i think it's great kids(+adults) are creative in general. I just don't agree with our societies consumeristic ways and the media in general(*shoving sex and drugs down our throats irresponsibly. Of COURSE people are going to want it)

But in the end, we're human. We'll always "want", "be", "copy" and "need" things. It's a fact of life.

Hipsters in Toronto always made me laugh, because, hell - you live in Toronto, get over yourself. If you want to be hip, STFU and move to nyc already, instead of being trite, boring posers here where no one will ever notice.

agairl: Oh noes. We live in Toronto. We should hang ourselves in shame.

What? Are you from that jealous wasteland called Calgary or something? Or are you swallowing the national anti-Toronto sentiment hook, line, and sinker? Get over it, yourself.

I've been to NYC several times. I've been to hip places there. It's pretty much like Toronto, on a larger scale and with more money and exposure. Yes, the "Who's Who" may be there, but I still have to say I'm happy and proud to be in Toronto.

Sketchees writes:

"UM?: Exactly.. what IS a hipster. I guess anyone that dressed and acts the same way that society around them does."

Are you dim? You think "society" does the digging up of new tracks and music for me? Or magically teleports me to shows/parties that are sometimes barely even advertised, or at people's houses? People put time and effort into this shit, dude. Seriously, did you think through your peanut-gallery BS here at all before you posted it?

Agirl writes:

"If you want to be hip, STFU and move to nyc already, instead of being trite, boring posers here where no one will ever notice."

Oh please. Yes, because nobody has paid ANY mind to any Toronto bands or production over the last 5-10 years. Christ, are you new? ROFL ... keep your inferiority complex to yourself, thanks.

do you guys really think that just because someone invents some theory of hipsterdom that the scene is going to transform itself? what defines being a hipster anyways? american apparel and non-prescription glasses? i feel like hipsterdom is much more than just a scene that a bunch of kids think they invented.

my friends who are hipsters aren't "a scene", they are individual people who are all very different than the trends pitched in this article. most of us wear vintage, think green, talk politics, and are involved in both the political and/or creative industries; fashion collectives using recycled materials, web designers creating sites for NGOs, urban artists creating festivals celebrating local culture, or political activists creating for-youth by-youth programming in their communities.

i think that the major source of apathy that we can pinpoint might be just plain corporate sponsorship, but people will get sick of this soon and it is questionable whether corporate sponsored boozefests actually effect our buying patterns. prime example--- after a CK1 sponsored party hipster attendees smashed their free perfume on the sidewalk and created an urban bonfire. if that's not political then what is?

Oh Jesus. Just shut up. Everyone. Just shut up because you are embarrassing yourselves.

"The counterculture became a consumer culture"?

The counterculture always has been, and always will be, part of the consumer culture. With kids rocking mandatory $300 kicks from the onset, there is nothing new here my friend.

I like cheese. Especially, runny brie cheese, on olive bread. I also like how this will probably be the most commented NOW article of all time moreso than the whole, "we don't have a government at the moment thing."

"The counterculture became a consumer culture"?

The counterculture always has been, and always will be, part of the consumer culture. With kids rocking mandatory $300 kicks from the onset, there is nothing new here my friend.

FORGET ABOUT TREVOR COLEMAN HE IS A NOBODY OBVIOUSLY SOME FRIEND OF HIS WROTE THIS ARTICLE. HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE A NOBODY LOSER. HE NEVER HAS EVEN BEEN TO A RAVE. AND HE IS NOT 27.

I don't know how I missed the vice reference.

Anyways the article as a whole to me has some points, is really stretching in others (The Obama connection is kind of lame), but overall the article didn't feel as much like an expose than a filler article of less quality than an Exclaim magazine timeline/scene feature.

I don't have a problem with hipsters in general simply because I don't know enough of them. If i was surrounded by them all the time maybe it would be different. Whenever you get around too many people with similar music tastes I find there's a sort of obnoxious inner policing and intolerance. it happens with every genre, but it bugs me more with indie rock and hipsters because they present themselves as if they are more tolerant than a metalhead or punker, that their tastes are wider or something, when they have people who go out and follow hype and buy records they're not even sure they like just like everyone else.

Anyways, seriously, if anyone needs to get the fuck out of life, its Gavin McInnes of Vice. Despite having a better than average record label, the phony racism, the pseudo-conservatism, the fashion police and the snark is so...

its Fraud on the Square. He's winking his way through everything, he's being offensive to be ironic, but he also sort of means everything he says. He's winking through being a piece of shit, even though he really is a humongous piece of shit.

I think one of the saddest things about some certain hipsters who overdo the 80s shit, is that in 20 years..

you know how your parents will have their goofy pics of themselves in weird clothes, well its this generation who are going to be showing their kids pics of themselves looking like idiots, and having to explain to them that they at least sort of looked like idiots on purpose, instead of just being entirely clueless - that they were copying the look of the previous generation who were entirely clueless.

its kind of sad we're running out of new styles to be entirely clueless about, we've moved into simply compiling everyone elses together into some mishmash of intentional cluelessness. Its almost TOO self-aware. It's like "That's My Bush" filtered once more through Diablo Cody.

*shudder*

I think one of the saddest things about some certain hipsters who overdo the 80s shit, is that in 20 years..

you know how your parents will have their goofy pics of themselves in weird clothes, well its this generation who are going to be showing their kids pics of themselves looking like idiots, and having to explain to them that they at least sort of looked like idiots on purpose, instead of just being entirely clueless - that they were copying the look of the previous generation who were entirely clueless.

its kind of sad we're running out of new styles to be entirely clueless about, we've moved into simply compiling everyone elses together into some mishmash of intentional cluelessness. Its almost TOO self-aware. It's like "That's My Bush" filtered once more through Diablo Cody.

*shudder*

Gavin left Vice long ago. Nor did he run Vice Records... that was Adam Shore (who has left the label).

It's funny how some people make up whatever kind of mythology they want to explain what happens with or is published in that magazine.

there's no such thing as a hipster you old farts no one calls themselves that unless they're a boring baby-toting record-collecting lulu-lemon-shopping idealistic bunch of morons. Lots of people were optimistically enjoying life before prince Obama rode in on a rainbow unicorn; just cause Coleman took the silver spoon out of his mouth for 5 seconds doesn't mean there's a fucking revolution going on. You're all r3tarded.

...there's some obvious backlash here...but to what...read the article again. its just this guys opinions in long form. doesn't diss hipsters at all just says its a new day and dumb shit like that. vice magazine is mentioned once.

Who the hell is Trevor COleman? And Raymi? I went to that website and if there ever was an embodiment of a hipster in denail, it's that website. Is it even a woman who posts a million pics of "her"self? NASTY

Who the hell is Trevor COleman? And Raymi? I went to that website and if there ever was an embodiment of a hipster in denail, it's that website. Is it even a woman who posts a million pics of "her"self? NASTY

Yeah, it's true Goon, my parents have bad pictures of themselves in old bizarre clothes. It's a fact. But after laughing it off, they talk about the incredible shows and experiences they had - and any memories of bad hair begin to fade pretty damn quickly. If you're living the life you want and fucking love it, geez man, who cares if You-In-20-Years thinks you wore bad jeans?

okay face facts now, nothing is more hipster than bashing, admit it, now loved a-trak when he was uber hip late 90s turntablism, now bashes the new scene that a-trak puts quality records out into. stuck in some kind of ninja tune timewarp guys? or where were the articles bashing ppl going to bss shows when that was hot? oh and then putting crystal castles on your cover for cred but bashing the people who go their shows. what class.

Can't even get to the essay on streetcarnage! Broken Link.

Can't even get to the essay on streetcarnage! Broken Link.

A better Now article if they're going all economy-woe on us would be trying to figure out how the massively resurgent and even more vacant prep'ster class will pay for all their Louis&Lacoste&Lindeberg now.

the only thing hipsters love more than talking aout themselves is taking pictures of themselves.

People like Raymi make me physically ill. What a disservice to "art."

Hipsterism is a trend that thankfully is on it's way out, ready to be the next big joke.

The "timeline" piece points out something rarely mentioned in most critical comments, namely how ridiculously queer positive your typical "hipster" show or party is, an undeniably huge positive step given the persistence of ultrahetero status quo clubland found West of Yonge.

"... thankfully is on it's way out, ready to be the next big joke."

You mean ... like your RRSP and your job, "yuppie"? ROFL

Who the hell is Trevor COleman? And Raymi? I went to that website and if there ever was an embodiment of a hipster in denail, it's that website. Is it even a woman who posts a million pics of "her"self? NASTY

Who the hell is Trevor COleman? And Raymi? I went to that website and if there ever was an embodiment of a hipster in denail, it's that website. Is it even a woman who posts a million pics of "her"self? NASTY

"Unlike the hippies of the 1960s and early 70s or Generation Xers in the 90s, this counterculture made a statement by making no statement, because no one was listening anyway."

What a cliche sentence. I've heard this over and over again, and yet it's still untrue. If anything there are more people listening, there are after all more people, more media, more ways to be heard. The real problem is the crap people are talking, writing, and subjecting themselves to.

And yeah, Kate C. is a pure hipster. I wonder what people like her will do after this mindless wave people call style.

@ Eh? - Stop repeating those posts already, we hear you. Besides, Raymi's blog basically seems to be performance art so interpret it accordingly. I don't know the chick personally (and she doesn't seem like a hipster to me) but friends that know her seem to think she's alright.

Who the hell is Trevor COleman? And Raymi? I went to that website and if there ever was an embodiment of a hipster in denail, it's that website. Is it even a woman who posts a million pics of "her"self? NASTY

anti-establishmentarianism means "against the establishment of a national or state church," you dumb dumb dumb-dumb.

Dressing up, drinking, dancing, and friends are supposed to be fun. Nobody's mindlessly searching for a niche, they're having a good time. People have done all of these things before Obama and skinny jean stores, and they will continue to do so long after both have become anachronistic. I can't imagine cynically putting on a pair of pants.

This article makes me want to go de-contextualize a case of beer.

The cover shot of Dawn is awsome.

i took the NOW hipster quiz and apparently I am a hipster. awesome. i can appreciate the parts of this hipster themed issue that are tongue in cheek (like the quiz, the fashion pictures, etc) but this article is exactly what a hipster magazine would publish. basically NOW is saying it is not hipster because it criticizes and laughs at hipsters. this, however, is exactly what hipsters are supposed to do. this is not the point i wish to make though. my point is that i like to get smashed and dance and dj the sounds of today, and i also am extremely politically engaged socially active and have been this way years before Obama was even mentioned in the news. i believe the author makes the mistake of equating everyone who appreciates a certain scene to those who make a living off of it. if i was paid to take photos at parties then i would not be up to much else either (but i think i would be enjoying myself, perhaps even content). this article is ridiculous. if this post-Obamanian age is so different then I ask why NOW bothers to waste a ton of paper on one person's poorly thought out, done everywhere else theory. in support of his argument the author relies on generalization and also anecdotal evidence. the author relies on the opinion of 5 people whose job it is to be the coolest person in the room. furthermore, how is this presumed dying scene any different than 90's rave culture? it also stood for nothing, had events in bizarre places and was populated bunch of kids getting fucked up beyond belief. that scene turned into this one which will turn into something else (as has been pointed out by other commenters). this whole issue of NOW seems to exist only to demonstrate how cool everyone involved is and are so past this stuff. the theory tying hipsterism to bush/obama is interesting until one considers that before bush people were doing the same thing except they were called ravers and dressed in a way that looks stupid to us today (as so called hipsters will no doubt look in 10 years). thus i ask: why even write this article? i'm bored now so I will stop. i'm gonna go to wrongbar and then to a warehouse party and drink me some pabst.

Wherever there will be young people with the leisure and means to protract their adolescence and distinguish themselves by niceties of taste, there will be hipsters. I'm just old enough to consider the skinny jeans and flat-brimmed caps hideous when I walk past you pushing a stroller. Ten years ago, I'm sure there was somebody ten years my senior asking themselves why anybody would wear corduroy flares and disco shirts. But seriously, what's with the hats, kids?

I think the big mistake of this article is that NOW is essentially attacking its own readership, who while they may not be these stereotypical hipsters, at least share things in common with them. NOW and Eye are the print voices for underground culture in the city, and associating their favorite music, movies and clothes as brainless fad isn't exactly what people pick up the mag for. It kind of buys into the same cynicism its critiquing.

I dont get why NOW does this sometimes, shooting itself in the foot. In the same magazine that is pushing the coalition so hard, its introduction to Ignatieff isn't an overall rounded story of his policies, good and bad, but a hit piece showing the negatives only. I don't know a whole lot about Iggy but he's had what most people would call a distinguished career and is considered a major intellectual figure, even if many views don't align with NOW. If NOW wants to drum up support for the coalition so bad, I don't know why it would try to turn people against the man who's going to lead it. There's reasoned critique and there's hissing and booing, and that article leaned entirely to the latter.

I simply don't understand how a magazine can claim a 'movement' is dead when those involved in said movement would claim vehemently that there is no such scene, and if there was, they wouldn't even bother being part of it.

This article lacks focus.

Wow. So, six months after the Adbusters article you publish this piece of shit? Coattails much?

i think that this 'hipster' subculture, to me, is about anti-establishment (which means more than just 'against established church' as written by barry gifford above) and anti- mass consumer culture, corporatism, and hyper materialism generally. i realize some of you may roll your eyes at this, and i think there are many 'hipster' types who probably just buy the look because they think it's cool or trendy, but many people who dig through old shoes and hats at places like value village do so because we don't want to walk into the umpteenth Gap or Benetton or Club Monaco and purchase a garment (that everyone else is sporting) that was made somewhere in Malaysia for a dollar by a labouring child and which this corporate retail store is now selling at 80$. I think the current counter-culture movement is nothing new from its previous ones really, in its rejection of the status quo values AND in its diversity of attitudes, opinions, and motivations for existing. i don't like corporations, i don't like wearing what everyone else does, i like listening to new music, going to art exhibits, documentary and film festivals, drinking in dingy dive bars, dancing all night and regretting it the next day, reading newspapers and magazines, politics and history, and talking about it with my other 'hipster' friends. some of the comments above make it sound like us 'clowns' are bored and full of ourselves--i know these people exist (in all subcultures and generations), but come on: some of us who wear skinny jeans and 'hats' have something to say, and we do hope that others are listening.

i think that this 'hipster' subculture, to me, is about anti-establishment (which means more than just 'against established church' as written by barry gifford above) and anti- mass consumer culture, corporatism, and hyper materialism generally. i realize some of you may roll your eyes at this, and i think there are many 'hipster' types who probably just buy the look because they think it's cool or trendy, but many people who dig through old shoes and hats at places like value village do so because we don't want to walk into the umpteenth Gap or Benetton or Club Monaco and purchase a garment (that everyone else is sporting) that was made somewhere in Malaysia for a dollar by a labouring child and which this corporate retail store is now selling at 80$. I think the current counter-culture movement is nothing new from its previous ones really, in its rejection of the status quo values AND in its diversity of attitudes, opinions, and motivations for existing. i don't like corporations, i don't like wearing what everyone else does, i like listening to new music, going to art exhibits, documentary and film festivals, drinking in dingy dive bars, dancing all night and regretting it the next day, reading newspapers and magazines, politics and history, and talking about it with my other 'hipster' friends. some of the comments above make it sound like us 'clowns' are bored and full of ourselves--i know these people exist (in all subcultures and generations), but come on: some of us who wear skinny jeans and 'hats' have something to say, and we do hope that others are listening.

Oh please, the so-called hipster attitude is the exact same one that has defined Now since I first read it as a teenager in the mid-90s.

Reality Bites and Singles would be total hipster movies if they came out now and had different costumes.

Most derivative article ever. You got the cover; use it to say something interesting.

who gives a shit? whatever you call yourself; you're an idiot for arguing these things that don't matter. excuse me while i go spout rhetoric at nothing.

who gives a shit? whatever you call yourself; you're an idiot for arguing these things that don't matter. excuse me while i go spout rhetoric at nothing.

No matter what anyone says, "trends"(not hipsterism) will always be around and kids will always latch on to them(arabic(& TFC) scarfs, "rain" boots(when its sunny out!), non-perscription glasses??..haha)

I do think though the subject matter of this article is reduntant and unnecessary. Now magazine has more class than this.

And in the end, you're much better than "flimsy" Eye :)

KATE C., PENDAR HADIAN, UM, 123 and ASHLEY are obviously upset that they have been found out for being hipsters, rendering their niche very un-hip and now must resign to consume whatever uninspired clothes American Apparel and H&M throw at them next.

But I agree with GOON, this is an odd article for NOW to write because it would seem to offend perhaps half of their readers. Writing whatever you want without fear of backlash? I guess that's honest journalism for you. Anyway, they'll come back sniffling. Where else would they find out about where the 'indie' bands are playing?

congrats NOW, hispter jesus just took a shit on us.

http://streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/blog/hipsters-are-not-nihilists/

Obama will not stop war, consumerism, or racism, and he won't stop Dov Charney from photographing hot teens either. I'm sick of hearing about this shit. HE'S AMERICAN WE'RE CANADIAN.

The quotes are meaningless but then the whole article is meaningless, it's just more annoying when you know the people mentioned and how annoying they are in real life!!

"Where else would they find out about where the 'indie' bands are playing? "

eye magazine? for one. I abandoned my religious weekly NOW habit over a year ago and find my life is no less enriched. Also helps having friends on Facebook who are hooked into local culture and interesting events, the kind I used to read about in NOW after they were over.

The line about nonprescription eyeglasses, that alone made reading this worthwhile. How great is it that I saw the link to this article on FB?

"Where else would they find out about where the 'indie' bands are playing? "

eye magazine? for one. I abandoned my religious weekly NOW habit over a year ago and find my life is no less enriched. Also helps having friends on Facebook who are hooked into local culture and interesting events, the kind I used to read about in NOW after they were over.

The line about nonprescription eyeglasses, that alone made reading this worthwhile. How great is it that I saw the link to this article on FB?

I get the feeling that many commented on this article and didn't bother to read this one:

http://www.nowtoronto.com/lifestyle/story.cfm?content=166408

Paul Terefenko's take on the hipster makes a lot more sense and, in this reader's opinion, should have been the cover story this week.

"Where else would they find out about where the 'indie' bands are playing? "

eye magazine? for one. I abandoned my religious weekly NOW habit over a year ago and find my life is no less enriched. Also helps having friends on Facebook who are hooked into local culture and interesting events, the kind I used to read about in NOW after they were over.

The line about nonprescription eyeglasses, that alone made reading this worthwhile. How great is it that I saw the link to this article on FB?

Robert Dobbs, Jr?

Did you seriously not pick up on this reference??? Not even an editor???

This is the problem with journalism today. It is especially the problem with anyone trying to do journalism about hipsters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._%22Bob%22_Dobbs

this article reminds me a lot of the following one: http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html

Kudos on being original NOW.

TRVR CLMN

If any of these commentors wants to read an interesting article about hipsters I definately recommend you all look up the Adbusters Magazine Issue #79 or click on this link to read the article: http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html There was alot of controversy when this article was published, I found it shocking myself.

I just saw EB recommend this article aswell on this comment list, but this is just another reminder.

You people are all retarded. The fact that people are even discussing this is a ridiculous waste of time.

Also - "definately?" Learn how to spell, moron. That's just about as bad as "seperately" or "then" when meaning "than."

I Love. I Hate. Do You Love ? Do you Hate ? You have to decide. Oh, yes you do.........

Hipster needs to relax! Everyone makes spelling errors. Geez..

Food for thought. A nice angle, complements that famous Adbusters piece nicely. We picked it up and ran with it on our blog, too. Read more here: http://thetragicallyunhip.com/2008/12/18/end-of-the-hipster-hmm/

P.S. Oh, and I love the chick wearing the lumberjack up by the title. Nice touch! Between calling the article "The Tragically Hip" and dressing your model our national flannel, it's nice that the piece has that Canadian touch.

What's funny is that it is somehow subterranean to be at the hottest parties in the coolest getup for years and than one day marketers neutralize this for average Jane and Joe Partys' consumption this is nixed.

Inasmuch, this doesn't strike me as news in the "breaking" or purist sense. This is the cycle of self discovery through loss of self that proves too vicious for many. This is intrinsic, not to culture, or society, or anything born communally, but to people on every street at every vantage point to the high and mighty American Apparels of the world.

As an aside, if you're gonna be trendy it seems outlandish to be miserly when you set a trend.

A provacative piece (the comment tally tells that story), but I would have liked to have seen some counterpoints from people that aren't hip or moved by the hipster movement. This includes the unwitting adorners of former hipster cape and cowl, who happened upon that 2-for-1 sale, while loitering in the hipster Mecca of Passe that is an indoor mall and thought, "This is new!" Hipsterism strikes me as less of a stance than it does as happenstance.

Hipsters are disgusting, agreed. People like raymi seem to personify the culture which encourages shitty artists to keep doing exactly the same thing over and over without learning or improving their skills (in raymi's case--take pictures of food, her naked body during low traffic times, going off/on her medication, create shitty one-hour paintings with no semblance of skill). As it is, she is just being encouraged to keep doing horrible, predictable, repetitive shit.

If there truly exists a "hipster", as you stereotype here, they are clearly the exact demographic that probably reads your magazine. Or used to. So you might as well have named the article "the end of our readers". And while you're at it, can you ring a death knell for the equally common species of male and female douchebags please? Thanks.

You are all douchebags. Hipsters are a subset of douche culture and commenting on an article about Hipsters is definitely douche behaviour. (Yes, I am a douche. Self awareness doesn't get me off the hook.) We have all become douchebags.

Who cares what the kids will be doing next, E instead of Coke? Big parties instead of smaller ones? Neutrals instead of colours? Who cares? And to be honest the kids don't.

Who cares if Trevor Coleman is or isn't the king of hipsters (I'd say he wasn't even a hipster to be quite frank, he was more of a scenester opportunist who liked to try new things in terms of parties -- sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.)

Also, a hipster would never admit or acknowledge the fact that they are a hipster. if you think you are a hipster or self-identify then you obviously aren't, you're actually worse, you're a wanna-be hipster. Which is quite sad. But it's the wanna-bes who wind up defining each popular culture movement. The ravers who started the scene knew it was time to pack up their glowsticks when people started using the word PLUR. By the time the media had coined the term Hippie, most of the founders of the scene had dropped out and shacked up in communes.

We're living in a hyper accelerated era where advances in technology have doomed our culture. Before anything interesting can develop it's blogged to death, marketed and raped until the next hot thing comes along, then repeat process. We all think we know better. We all feel a sense of cultural superiority. And we have the access to the tools that allow us to do so. Music. Pictures. movies. Fashion. Opinions. Download, bookmark, upload, tag, consume consume. We've all become media gluttons who are eating each others vomit.

Any culture centered around youth, beauty and being cool is doomed. Still born. A true cultural movement needs time to grow in isolation. Therefore, in this day and age it must be repulsive.

My predictions: the next major cultural movement will come from "losers" who aren't trying to be cool, are ugly, and are totally unmarketable.

In chat rooms obese teenagers with bad breath are collaborating on projects that will redefine our world. Fueled by junk food, hormones and adolescent rage, ignored by the media and pretty much everybody. This time they aren't planning a gay suicide pact killing spree. This time they, well they aren't probably planning anything, but it's just happening. Save us you tormented bespectacled compulsive masturbators!

In old-age homes seniors are discovering the web and digital tools, ignored and sent off to die and sink into senility somewhere far enough removed to make it comfortable for their so-called loved ones, they are creating a revolution. Unlike kids who think they will never die and embrace suicidal posturing, they in fact don't really have anything to lose and are aware that life doesn't get better after 60. Plus they have life experience, and easy access to mind-altering pharmaceuticals. Help us yon wizzened geezers!

End of the hipster? Whatever, it's the end, period, until something so disgusting (or boring?) pops up that no one can ignore.

Who knows, it's probably happening somewhere right now. At least I hope so, sort of.

And as for the term hopester, you should lose your job. Oh wait, you write for NOW. Ha, ha, that's punishment enough.

You are all douchebags. Hipsters are a subset of douche culture and commenting on an article about Hipsters is definitely douche behaviour. (Yes, I am a douche. Self awareness doesn't get me off the hook.) We have all become douchebags.

Who cares what the kids will be doing next, E instead of Coke? Big parties instead of smaller ones? Neutrals instead of colours? Who cares? And to be honest the kids don't.

Who cares if Trevor Coleman is or isn't the king of hipsters (I'd say he wasn't even a hipster to be quite frank, he was more of a scenester opportunist who liked to try new things in terms of parties -- sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.)

Also, a hipster would never admit or acknowledge the fact that they are a hipster. if you think you are a hipster or self-identify then you obviously aren't, you're actually worse, you're a wanna-be hipster. Which is quite sad. But it's the wanna-bes who wind up defining each popular culture movement. The ravers who started the scene knew it was time to pack up their glowsticks when people started using the word PLUR. By the time the media had coined the term Hippie, most of the founders of the scene had dropped out and shacked up in communes.

We're living in a hyper accelerated era where advances in technology have doomed our culture. Before anything interesting can develop it's blogged to death, marketed and raped until the next hot thing comes along, then repeat process. We all think we know better. We all feel a sense of cultural superiority. And we have the access to the tools that allow us to do so. Music. Pictures. movies. Fashion. Opinions. Download, bookmark, upload, tag, consume consume. We've all become media gluttons who are eating each others vomit.

Any culture centered around youth, beauty and being cool is doomed. Still born. A true cultural movement needs time to grow in isolation. Therefore, in this day and age it must be repulsive.

My predictions: the next major cultural movement will come from "losers" who aren't trying to be cool, are ugly, and are totally unmarketable.

In chat rooms obese teenagers with bad breath are collaborating on projects that will redefine our world. Fueled by junk food, hormones and adolescent rage, ignored by the media and pretty much everybody. This time they aren't planning a gay suicide pact killing spree. This time they, well they aren't probably planning anything, but it's just happening. Save us you tormented bespectacled compulsive masturbators!

In old-age homes seniors are discovering the web and digital tools, ignored and sent off to die and sink into senility somewhere far enough removed to make it comfortable for their so-called loved ones, they are creating a revolution. Unlike kids who think they will never die and embrace suicidal posturing, they in fact don't really have anything to lose and are aware that life doesn't get better after 60. Plus they have life experience, and easy access to mind-altering pharmaceuticals. Help us yon wizzened geezers!

End of the hipster? Whatever, it's the end, period, until something so disgusting (or boring?) pops up that no one can ignore.

Who knows, it's probably happening somewhere right now. At least I hope so, sort of.

And as for the term hopester, you should lose your job. Oh wait, you write for NOW. Ha, ha, that's punishment enough.

You are all douchebags. Hipsters are a subset of douche culture and commenting on an article about Hipsters is definitely douche behaviour. (Yes, I am a douche. Self awareness doesn't get me off the hook.) We have all become douchebags.

Who cares what the kids will be doing next, E instead of Coke? Big parties instead of smaller ones? Neutrals instead of colours? Who cares? And to be honest the kids don't.

Who cares if Trevor Coleman is or isn't the king of hipsters (I'd say he wasn't even a hipster to be quite frank, he was more of a scenester opportunist who liked to try new things in terms of parties -- sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.)

Also, a hipster would never admit or acknowledge the fact that they are a hipster. if you think you are a hipster or self-identify then you obviously aren't, you're actually worse, you're a wanna-be hipster. Which is quite sad. But it's the wanna-bes who wind up defining each popular culture movement. The ravers who started the scene knew it was time to pack up their glowsticks when people started using the word PLUR. By the time the media had coined the term Hippie, most of the founders of the scene had dropped out and shacked up in communes.

We're living in a hyper accelerated era where advances in technology have doomed our culture. Before anything interesting can develop it's blogged to death, marketed and raped until the next hot thing comes along, then repeat process. We all think we know better. We all feel a sense of cultural superiority. And we have the access to the tools that allow us to do so. Music. Pictures. movies. Fashion. Opinions. Download, bookmark, upload, tag, consume consume. We've all become media gluttons who are eating each others vomit.

Any culture centered around youth, beauty and being cool is doomed. Still born. A true cultural movement needs time to grow in isolation. Therefore, in this day and age it must be repulsive.

My predictions: the next major cultural movement will come from "losers" who aren't trying to be cool, are ugly, and are totally unmarketable.

In chat rooms obese teenagers with bad breath are collaborating on projects that will redefine our world. Fueled by junk food, hormones and adolescent rage, ignored by the media and pretty much everybody. This time they aren't planning a gay suicide pact killing spree. This time they, well they aren't probably planning anything, but it's just happening. Save us you tormented bespectacled compulsive masturbators!

In old-age homes seniors are discovering the web and digital tools, ignored and sent off to die and sink into senility somewhere far enough removed to make it comfortable for their so-called loved ones, they are creating a revolution. Unlike kids who think they will never die and embrace suicidal posturing, they in fact don't really have anything to lose and are aware that life doesn't get better after 60. Plus they have life experience, and easy access to mind-altering pharmaceuticals. Help us yon wizzened geezers!

End of the hipster? Whatever, it's the end, period, until something so disgusting (or boring?) pops up that no one can ignore.

Who knows, it's probably happening somewhere right now. At least I hope so, sort of.

And as for the term hopester, you should lose your job. Oh wait, you write for NOW. Ha, ha, that's punishment enough.

You are all douchebags. Hipsters are a subset of douche culture and commenting on an article about Hipsters is definitely douche behaviour. (Yes, I am a douche. Self awareness doesn't get me off the hook.) We have all become douchebags.

Who cares what the kids will be doing next, E instead of Coke? Big parties instead of smaller ones? Neutrals instead of colours? Who cares? And to be honest the kids don't.

Who cares if Trevor Coleman is or isn't the king of hipsters (I'd say he wasn't even a hipster to be quite frank, he was more of a scenester opportunist who liked to try new things in terms of parties -- sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.)

Also, a hipster would never admit or acknowledge the fact that they are a hipster. if you think you are a hipster or self-identify then you obviously aren't, you're actually worse, you're a wanna-be hipster. Which is quite sad. But it's the wanna-bes who wind up defining each popular culture movement. The ravers who started the scene knew it was time to pack up their glowsticks when people started using the word PLUR. By the time the media had coined the term Hippie, most of the founders of the scene had dropped out and shacked up in communes.

We're living in a hyper accelerated era where advances in technology have doomed our culture. Before anything interesting can develop it's blogged to death, marketed and raped until the next hot thing comes along, then repeat process. We all think we know better. We all feel a sense of cultural superiority. And we have the access to the tools that allow us to do so. Music. Pictures. movies. Fashion. Opinions. Download, bookmark, upload, tag, consume consume. We've all become media gluttons who are eating each others vomit.

Any culture centered around youth, beauty and being cool is doomed. Still born. A true cultural movement needs time to grow in isolation. Therefore, in this day and age it must be repulsive.

My predictions: the next major cultural movement will come from "losers" who aren't trying to be cool, are ugly, and are totally unmarketable.

In chat rooms obese teenagers with bad breath are collaborating on projects that will redefine our world. Fueled by junk food, hormones and adolescent rage, ignored by the media and pretty much everybody. This time they aren't planning a gay suicide pact killing spree. This time they, well they aren't probably planning anything, but it's just happening. Save us you tormented bespectacled compulsive masturbators!

In old-age homes seniors are discovering the web and digital tools, ignored and sent off to die and sink into senility somewhere far enough removed to make it comfortable for their so-called loved ones, they are creating a revolution. Unlike kids who think they will never die and embrace suicidal posturing, they in fact don't really have anything to lose and are aware that life doesn't get better after 60. Plus they have life experience, and easy access to mind-altering pharmaceuticals. Help us yon wizzened geezers!

End of the hipster? Whatever, it's the end, period, until something so disgusting (or boring?) pops up that no one can ignore.

Who knows, it's probably happening somewhere right now. At least I hope so, sort of.

And as for the term hopester, you should lose your job. Oh wait, you write for NOW. Ha, ha, that's punishment enough.

Now might have lifted the anti-hipster shtick from Adbusters, but Adbusters got the idea from the May 30, 2007 issue of TimeOut New York:

http://www.timeout.com/newyork/articles/features/4840/why-the-hipster-must-die

18 months ago!

The article is entertaining, and while some grammatical errors were (bearly) forgivable, I believe (for the sake of coherency) it is important to use words as they were meant to be used.

**Antidisestablishmentarianism, as defined by Oxford dictionary, and even Wikipedia, refers to opposition to the disestablishment of the Church of England. However, it is popularly cited as an example of a long word.

correction: barely

umm... its not antiDISestablishmentarianism

"Antiestablishmentarianism (or anti-establishmentarianism) is a policy or attitude that views a nation's power structure as corrupt, repressive, or exploitive.

Antiestablishmentarians adhere to the doctrine of opposition to the social and political establishment. Their purpose is to subvert from within. This doctrine holds that establishments lose connection with the people and have their own agendas which frequently destroy the things they blindly don't address.

Antiestablishmentarianism has ties to anarchism but should not be confused with antifederalism or antifeudalism.

In a country with an established religion (e.g. England), "antiestablishmentarianism" means support for the end of the special status of the established religion. In the 1800s, some English people opposed a movement to disestablish as the church exclusively recognized by the government as the official religion of the country. That countermovement was antidisestablishmentarianism. Antidisestablishmentarianism is usually cited as the longest word in the English language, but according to some definitions it is exceeded by several others." (wikipedia)

by this definition, the use of the word makes no sense in this article. the author suggests that hipsters don't stand for antyhing (and with the election of obama, they have a reason to care), hinting towards apathy. however, by virtue of being anti-establishment you ARE for something...

either way, the article is stupid, and i am even more stupid for a)reading it b)reading now magazine in general (or at least for any other reason than the back ads) c) coming to this website, reading these comments, AND actually adding to them (no amount of dope will ever justify this shit)

Why was this on the front cover? And where did they buy that stock photo from?

There is this whole other culture that should be commented on, except it's alot more boring to talk about and you'd get 10x as more "Who gives a shit, you bloody morons?" comments.

Kids with their Ugg boots, Aritzia bags, Ugh. Abercrombie? Money obsessed people? See, these are youth cultures that never get ragged on because they are 'the norm'. They aren't challenging anything and, frankly, no one cares.

So then we have a bunch of colorful youth with holier-than-thou attitudes (get over it, almost everyone has this douchebag attitude). I find it extremely hilarious that 'important writers' make lengthly observations about these kids. Please. It's rediculous. It's looking a lot like an attention scheme - is NOW magazine looking for more attention?

I dont even think they regarded their lives as a culture in the beginning - everyone else labeled it as such. Labels are created by facsinated onlookers.

It's funny how well-worded articles written by random writers are somehow regarded as important (is this article considered important?). That's the media for you...

P.S I don't think some of those 'hipster' kids know that 'hipster' is a lame title to give yourself. Can we BAN this word? Toronto Life uses it a trillion times in every issue.

I thought this was about the Tragically Hip. I don't get it.

It is a while since this article was posted and the hip still hasn't taken a dip around here.

I don't understand. I thought being a hipster was about being popular and "with it". You know, hip? Regarding this revamped retro,pom-pom, "metrosexual" (oh my god) look.....KILL IT KILL IT.

Regarding cynicism getting you pussy, let me ask you something. WHEN I SEE YOU WITH A FULL PACK OF CIGARETTES AND YOU GIGGLE(alongside your bitch)"it's my last one" AT ME....WHEN YOU CLEARLY HAVE NINETEEN MORE>>>>WHO IS THE CYNIC??

The atrociously stupid sandwich boards around this city seem to think Mr. "Lipotrim" is right on the money. Dude.

I never saw it that way when I wrote a critique of the VW Routan ad that pictures aging hipsters sadly drowning in nostalgia, but yeah, you could even say that the very commercialism that has

first of all i see is bunch of ghay people having an excuse to be around straight people and hoping that straights are gonna turn gay one day ,as well as straight people who think that they are straight(when i say hipster i think gay is new straight),second of all what i find interesting is that people dont mind being uniformed to fit with the rest but dont you dare to call them Hipster.. well Hipster means regular like the rest, old news washed out .... nobody likes that ( shoot yourself in the head if you are victim of UNREAL ) too many young people today is what you see, new baby boom boomer generation (thats what hipster is)watch! 80% of them are about to become ungracefully aged partyers due to their selfcentered hands off parents,are you that kid from Kramer vs. Kramer (1979)? (lets hope that true hipster doesnt bother raising a kid) if you learned anything you wouldnt be something that is called something ,you would be you

Hear hear!

what are you primates talking about?

What these people are doing is creating the illusion of counter-culture by discussing a "scene" that only exists in pictures. It's impossible (these days) to pin-down what is truly hip among young people. All we can seem to do is pin-down the impossibility and enjoy seeing ourselves on the internet one way or another. It's really sad and boring. Politics haven't had anything to do with it and we all know this. It would be nice if they did, because idealism should be the foundation of every scene. If these snappily dressed kids at least had a sense of pride about "who they are" we could call it something, like punk or grunge, but when we look back at those scenes they are all tainted with failure, and obviously manufactured art/style. That makes it impossible for people to invest themselves in something "completely original" because nobody is really hungry for it. I think that's what we're talking about. Isn't it?

I really hate that young people have started dressing weird and partying a lot. Definitely wasn't the case in my day.

The article is entertaining, and while some grammatical errors were (bearly) forgivable, I believe (for the sake of coherency) it is important to use words as they were meant to be used.

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