Toronto is finally poised to make the transition from being a great town to party in to being the town that provides the soundtrack for the rest of the world to party to.
DJs all over the planet have noticed there’s something going on here, and it’s high time we recognized this ourselves.
So writing a cover story about a local up-and-coming dance producer, someone on the verge of breaking on an international level, was a no-brainer. Except when the list of candidates was tossed around, it was obvious that picking only one wouldn’t do the scene justice. There’s just too much talent here.
Toronto has had a number of club music success stories. Nick Holder, Hatiras, Deadmau5, MSTRKRFT and Moonstarr all come quickly to mind, and that’s not even touching on all the minimal techno and drum ’n’ bass artists who’ve put out quality records.
But there’s never been such an overwhelming volume of beats coming out of this town before. Still, in many ways, it’s surprising that it took this long for us to get here.
We’ve long had an exceptionally strong club scene, but for whatever reason we’ve always partied to the sounds coming out of other cities rather than trying to forge our own identity.
In the 80s, the Twilight Zone was our respected equivalent of legendary clubs like Chicago’s Warehouse and NYC’s Paradise Garage, and our rave scene in the 90s was one of the biggest in the world. Industry Nightclub was cited by many international DJs as one of their favourite places to play. More recently, the Guvernment and Circa have made a big impression on the global mega-club scene.
On the underground level, you can find a Toronto exemplar for pretty much any niche genre. If you want deep soulful house, promoters like Garage 416 still bring out big crowds after more than a decade; if you want scrappy digital hardcore, you’ve got parties like Embryon. And it’s long been true that lots of international DJs play for bigger crowds here than in their own hometowns.
Despite having so many places to dance, Toronto has never been associated with a particular sound, and likely never will be, thanks to our famously ambiguous, amorphous identity. In the past, that might have held us back, but now that dance music sub-genres are less segregated, there’s finally an opportunity for our crazy-quilt approach to get the attention it deserves.
So we settled not on one artist for our cover story, but 10. The acts we’re spotlighting all have their own sound and influences but aren’t tied closely to any previous established scene. They do, however, often cross paths, and you’ll see many of the same faces in the crowd at each of their gigs, even if Loetech’s throbbing take on dubstep is miles away from Mansion’s upbeat stadium house, and Syntonics’ updated booty bass has little in common with TMDP’s synth disco.
This cross-pollination of scenes and sounds will lead the way for Toronto and the world. The days of trying to emulate the regional genres of other cities are over – people want to dance to a variety of sounds in the course of an evening, and variety is exactly what Toronto excels at.
On that note, here’s who we predict will come out with the next Toronto dance floor anthems. They’re also a reminder to everybody that there’s more to club music than NYC, Ibiza, Berlin, Paris and London.
To prove the point, we’ve teamed up with Circa to present a party featuring most of our picks, commissioned AD/D’s Mario J to do an exclusive online DJ mix featuring all 10 artists, and you can stream individual tracks online from everyone as well.
NOW Mix includes:
- Nacho Lovers - Acid Life
- AutoErotique - Gladiator
- MSTKRFT - Bounce ( MANSION Mix)
- Hatiras & Jelo - Donkey Punch
- Deadmau5 - Ghosts'n'Stuff
- Bombaman - Exia V5
- Shu Bawng (Edu K. Royale with Cheese Remix featuring SYNTONICS) - BSBTRGCLUB
- STA - Movement
- Mansion – STAB
- Dev 79 - In Ya Face (Egyptrixx Frightenstein of House RMX)
- Vitamins For You – B4U
See other DJ features and music:
Egyptrixx | Syntonics | Sta | Loetech | AutoErotique | Mansion | Pilotpriest | Nacho Lovers | VitaminsForYou | TMDP

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Where's the style over the substance ?
Bands doing electro projects always need gimmicks to supplement the weka music underneath...there are so many acts here that could have been represented...
And NO, Toronto is not and will never be on the same level as London or Berlin...when crap like Crystal Castles gets to hype level they did, you know we're in trouble...
Wow, I know I shouldn't bother, there will always be haters.
But really, aren't we being a bit ornery? Your criticism is that its trendy, its at Circa, and its blogged? Where's the support? We're at a pivotal moment in Toronto's club scene moving away from this "nu rave" top 40 side chained indy house that leaves your ears ringing for days. At the foreground of this movement is a group genre agnostic DJs and producers that really bring something fresh to the table (even if its part recycled, what musical form doesn't recycle elements?).
Your criticisms are a bit off the mark, your hate is out dated, we've moved on, hurry and catch up, just don't bring your negativity with you. We've heard it before, its getting tired.
im with you! anybody's computer can make these noises. where's the music at? to me it all sounds like bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow. who listens to this stuff and is inspired? it inspires me to do drugs and go to the club. this music will NOT stand the test of time. i bet next year, you wont even know who these people are
AGREED.
now should be doing some more research.
where is alias on that list? where are the fuk house guys on that list? plus a shit load of others..
wake up now
Here's the points you missed 1. More than half that electro top 40 shit is original stupid. i.e. that's barbi's voice on syntonics, a mansion remix of fellow torontonians, msterkrft's bounce with isis from thunderheist singing on it. Deadmau5' ghosts and stuff is original and so is AE gladiator and Mansion's stab. I'm sure there's some Vampire Weekend derivative album that you can eagerly anticipate somewhere, but for chirst's sake, take a listen before you open your mouth big enough for both feet.
2. It's not about being liked in a trendy scene--while you were camping outside the horseshoe for yet another industry laden, mutual masturbation indie-rock fest, the rest of the world started consuming canadian electronica. Saying you're from canada and specifically toronto in electronic music is like saying you were from seattle during that shit grunge era. And p.s., if you knew where canada's money went (easy info to find) in terms of music, you'd know that it goes almost exclusively to support acts that couldn't give a record away outside of canada. Check the list of people who win junos, polaris prizes and headlines festivals like cmw, nxne and pop montreal to see the neo-hippies who are sucking up all the videofact grants with their new age folk. Electronic music IS the Canadian punk rock. It's a scene loved by the world and supported almost exclusively by the people creating it.
3.No one in this industry likes the Nu Rave that is Fridays at CiRCA, but the masses still love it. "the masses" i'm talking about are the same people who got their first taste of dance music through steve aoki, and learned how to party from facebook photo sets. As long as those masses cough cough, the ones that pay to open the doors, are into that boring nu raver shit, the only thing to do is at least help them get to where we are a little faster with some forward thinking music. As a footnote, I would love to hear your suggestion of where else to put that many DJs in toronto? Last I checked Lee's palace was taken with 40 stars concerts.
4. You should be totally ashamed of yourself for shitting all over your hometown peers who are putting themselves out there every day trying to raise the profile of this fantastic city so that idiots like you can eat like kings on the plethora of culture which surrounds you. You're right, we're not Berlin or London or NYC, because those people have enough class to support their own.
I'm sick of Torontonians and Canadians shitting all over their own. NYC would give their left nut to be us right now.
I'm not hiding behind anonymous here, my name is Anna Von Frances and I can be reached through www.pinkmafia.ca
If that's really all you got, then turn that shit up, and keep it coming!
http://www.nowtoronto.com/music/story.cfm?content=167031
it's gotta be hard to get it down to this many words.
relax also all these folks are playing out alot, so it makes sense.
Here's the points you missed 1. More than half that electro top 40 shit is original stupid. i.e. that's barbi's voice on syntonics, a mansion remix of fellow torontonians, msterkrft's bounce with isis from thunderheist singing on it. Deadmau5' ghosts and stuff is original and so is AE gladiator and Mansion's stab. I'm sure there's some Vampire Weekend derivative album that you can eagerly anticipate somewhere, but for chirst's sake, take a listen before you open your mouth big enough for both feet.
2. It's not about being liked in a trendy scene--while you were camping outside the horseshoe for yet another industry laden, mutual masturbation indie-rock fest, the rest of the world started consuming canadian electronica. Saying you're from canada and specifically toronto in electronic music is like saying you were from seattle during that shit grunge era. And p.s., if you knew where canada's money went (easy info to find) in terms of music, you'd know that it goes almost exclusively to support acts that couldn't give a record away outside of canada. Check the list of people who win junos, polaris prizes and headlines festivals like cmw, nxne and pop montreal to see the neo-hippies who are sucking up all the videofact grants with their new age folk. Electronic music IS the Canadian punk rock. It's a scene loved by the world and supported almost exclusively by the people creating it.
3.No one in this industry likes the Nu Rave that is Fridays at CiRCA, but the masses still love it. "the masses" i'm talking about are the same people who got their first taste of dance music through steve aoki, and learned how to party from facebook photo sets. As long as those masses cough cough, the ones that pay to open the doors, are into that boring nu raver shit, the only thing to do is at least help them get to where we are a little faster with some forward thinking music. As a footnote, I would love to hear your suggestion of where else to put that many DJs in toronto? Last I checked Lee's palace was taken with 40 stars concerts.
4. You should be totally ashamed of yourself for shitting all over your hometown peers who are putting themselves out there every day trying to raise the profile of this fantastic city so that idiots like you can eat like kings on the plethora of culture which surrounds you. You're right, we're not Berlin or London or NYC, because those people have enough class to support their own.
I'm sick of Torontonians and Canadians shitting all over their own. NYC would give their left nut to be us right now.
I'm not hiding behind anonymous here, my name is Anna Von Frances and I can be reached through www.pinkmafia.ca
If that's really all you got, then turn that shit up, and keep it coming!
Anna speaks the truth. Like it or not. You really should be ashamed. It's so ridiculous to hear people OPENLY hating on hard working honest artists.
I'm still having a hard time understanding why there are so many haters. Do your research. If you honestly feel like you want to see someone on this list next year or even six months from now GO BOOK THEM.
Last time i checked it was grinders like Mansion, Autoerotique, and SYNTONICS that were packing clubs.
Haters make me sick. I'm OUT.
MG
Anna speaks the truth. Like it or not. You really should be ashamed. It's so ridiculous to hear people OPENLY hating on hard working honest artists.
I'm still having a hard time understanding why there are so many haters. Do your research. If you honestly feel like you want to see someone on this list next year or even six months from now GO BOOK THEM.
Last time i checked it was grinders like Mansion, Autoerotique, and SYNTONICS that were packing clubs.
Haters make me sick. I'm OUT.
MG
no they don't, this is fucking total-shit electro-trance that i don't even want to associate with house music.
"Saying you're from canada and specifically toronto in electronic music is like saying you were from seattle during that shit grunge era"
well put, we'll call it the shit electronica era(who the fuck says electronica anyway). mstrkrft = nrvna ?
"You should be totally ashamed of yourself for shitting all over your hometown peers who are putting themselves out there every day trying to raise the profile of this fantastic city so that idiots like you can eat like kings on the plethora of culture which surrounds you. You're right, we're not Berlin or London or NYC, because those people have enough class to support their own"
Hey just because they are putting themselves out there does not mean the quality of the music is above par. Doesn't matter what city you are in ha;)Granted there ARE a few names in that list that do deserve to be on there.I support my city and the people in it who are actually PUSHING THINGS FORWARD. You are right anna this is not about being liked in a trendy scene this is about pushing quality music and hence the title "the future sound of toronto" no?.. and as we all know the music sets the pace for many things in this city. So when you talk about "original stupid fresh music" there is nothing original about recycled stabs and vocoders. All music is recycled now. It's all about the vibes now. But heh its all subjective right? Just my opinion. But take a seat and talk to many hardworking music makers out there and they will tell you the same thing.
"I'm sick of Torontonians and Canadians shitting all over their own. NYC would give their left nut to be us right now. "
O yeah? last time I checked first hand trouble and bass and multiple promoters in nyc have people in the palms of their hands right now. Lets not make the comparison please.
and wahh.. "alias got mentioned, with a bunch of other folks:"
You are kidding me right? A small blurb ha. Most of those kids have nothing on Darren.
Ok enough ranting. Have fun everyone!
no they don't, this is fucking total-shit electro-trance that i don't even want to associate with house music.
"Saying you're from canada and specifically toronto in electronic music is like saying you were from seattle during that shit grunge era"
well put, we'll call it the shit electronica era(who the fuck says electronica anyway). mstrkrft = nrvna ?
no they don't, this is fucking total-shit electro-trance that i don't even want to associate with house music.
"Saying you're from canada and specifically toronto in electronic music is like saying you were from seattle during that shit grunge era"
well put, we'll call it the shit electronica era(who the fuck says electronica anyway). mstrkrft = nrvna ?
no they don't, this is fucking total-shit electro-trance that i don't even want to associate with house music.
"Saying you're from canada and specifically toronto in electronic music is like saying you were from seattle during that shit grunge era"
well put, we'll call it the shit electronica era(who the fuck says electronica anyway). mstrkrft = nrvna ?
we're talkin about club music here.....it will naturally change when the audience changes......djs usually play what the crowd wants......the switch over in sound takes time to change.... we are in the process of gettin into some new shit.....relax
and people shittin on CiRCA has got to stop.....i been to so many amazing nights there.....SO MANY!!!! that place is fuckin dope...
step off!
COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER!!!!!!! the board who decides on the gov grants is SOOOO OUT OF DATE AND BIASED.....
WHY THE F@CK DOES UNIVERSAL NEED A VIDEOFACT GRANT>!?!?!?
These artist are all putting their work in. I'm glad to see their getting recognition. I'm tired of people complaining about a producer just because they make what's "in style" or "trendy." If you want to please 10,000+ ears, being in style is what it takes. You're not better than anyone else just because you're on a different tip. (although originality is very important) These guys are dope! They deserve a cover story in the local magazine and much, much more.
Big up t-dot, peace!
its about toronto putting its best foot forward in the world of dance/club music. being as that we're talking about music, let's keep in mind that music is a subjective.
considering the title of the article, it is in my opinion,that egyptrixx, is the only act/artist pushing things forward and worth keeping and eye and ear on. as for the rest, they're just keepin' up with the status quo.
being trendy or in line with what's currently popular, DOES NOT automatically mean the artist/song is any good (regardless of what town it's from). sure, a track or artist's immediate impact on the masses is a major factor but, only time will tell its true worth. perhaps a follow-up article a year from now would prove most interesting.
i love toronto.
what disappoints me about this town is its bland taste in music.
for all of those quick to slap each other on the back over how great the scene is--get over yourselves! you know who i'm talking about--clueless club/lounge/hotel owners who only care about the money (can't blame 'em, they're business folks) and the promoters who always seem to use the same old acts (local and international) over and over. their lack of imagination and good taste are killing the scene. "ya, you used to be cool, but now you're just chasin' paper"
it takes a big set of balls to call yourself THE FUTURE SOUND OF TORONTO, thankfully, I'VE GOT 'EM!
ENJOY!
THE FUTURE SOUND OF TORONTO VOL.7
http://download.yousendit.com/9FB8A9294188012B
yeah, we're fucking shit.
yeah, we're fucking shit.
as usual, toronto making itself look retarded...
i love this city but i hate the scene(s)
I think NoW completely missed in their selections. This isn't the future sound, this is the sound of the last 4 years. I'm listening to this mix, and after many years of hearing tracks totaling into the ridiculous - i've heard these songs too many times before. Nothing inspiring at all...
Who cares anyway, the media is not exactly a barometer of what is going on. Just support what you like and don't bother with it...
Btw Toronto has had a sound for dance music, there was a lot of house from Toronto in the later 90s (Industry era) that as seen as unique to these parts.
This was the future sound 2 years ago . . . maybe. Are you kidding me? This makes Toronto look bad.
Egyptrixx is the only one doing anything forward thinking from this group of artists.
I guess even though your music blows, as long as you know the right people you'll get your shit pushed.
WOW!
LAME!!!
I think NoW completely missed in their selections. This isn't the future sound, this is the sound of the last 4 years. I'm listening to this mix, and after many years of hearing tracks totaling into the ridiculous - i've heard these songs too many times before. Nothing inspiring at all...
Who cares anyway, the media is not exactly a barometer of what is going on. Just support what you like and don't bother with it...
Btw Toronto has had a sound for dance music, there was a lot of house from Toronto in the later 90s (Industry era) that as seen as unique to these parts.
This was the future sound 2 years ago . . . maybe. Are you kidding me? This makes Toronto look bad.
Egyptrixx is the only one doing anything forward thinking from this group of artists.
I guess even though your music blows, as long as you know the right people you'll get your shit pushed.
WOW!
LAME!!!
A stale companion piece to the Hipster article.
A stale companion piece to the Hipster article.
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
When will now fire ben boles? Your magazine carries some weight in the scene. He sucks his friends dicks too much. I'm surprised at this actually. With all his repetitive complaining about buzz saw synths... I would expect a bunch of disco acts to be promoted. Maybe some dubstep cause that garbage is cool in the UK... Least he's not as bad as denise benson, promoting her dyke friends like they're music gods cause they're gay and still manage to make music. Damn. This city needs better music reporters if you don't want us to hate so much.
i sense a fucktonne of jealousy...
if you think some of these artists got in on this article cuz they are insanely popular or are huge friends with the writers or whatever, check your heads.
as one half of LOETECH, i can tell you Toronto has given us VERY little support in the two years we have been "playing on computers" all the records we have put out, and have coming out are from places like the UK, Italy and the US where we seem to have fan bases. Toronto, on the other hand, has shit all over dubstep before it got "trendy" as you people seem to think...however, that is just a generalization of the comments, cuz it's obvious why you crybabies are writing the things you write.
get your heads out of your asses, seriously...there's an enormous, glaring reason why Toronto producers, and Canadian musicians in general leave the country and that reason is right here in this comments section.
there's an old saying "you don't know what you've got till it's gone" and i am not saying we are the be-all-end-all producers in here, but there isn't ANY constructive criticism, just bashing...
pathetic, the lot of you.
to those that support, see you at circa! :)
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
dude is the pearl of guangdong. we eat pizza together and i teach him about great pop records cause i'm 45 years older than him. step off or we will do some serious chinese shit to you. it might involve dogs. or it might not.
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
The problem I have is with the "journalist" and the way this article is written... the fact that it completely ignores so many great artists in this scene that have have had success internationally with NO recognition from NOW ever. "Taking over the world's dancefloor's"... please! Half of these guys haven't even released more than a couple original tunes!! Half of them got known for remixing Pop tunes -- tunes that are ALREADY popular... how is that groundbreaking? Fuck, you have at least 2 acts on there that haven't released ANY original music yet (puting a track on a blog or myspace doesnt really qualify as being released ok)
NOW really needs to get someone fresh to write these music articles. The promotion for CIRCA friday's in this magazine has become ridiculous. How more obvious does it have to be that Ben Boles really just wants to feel like he's part of this 'scene'. Its pathetic and poor poor journalism.
If the article just was worded as -- This is the new sound of Circa Friday Nights in Toronto -- instead of The Future of Toronto I think we would all be less insulted.
Why do people feel the need to over-hype their friends? This article is not honest at all. Or it's just completely not researched in any way. Or the Toronto music scene is in trouble.
Comparing Toronto to Seattle-era grunge is the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. That's what you think when your brain is fried from doing too much coke. I mean, are you insane? Honestly, are you insane? This group of "Future Sound of Toronto" artists reminds me more of the swing music revival a few years ago, than of the grunge music scene.
Get real.
You think NYC wishes they could be more like the Toronto scene? Please visit NYC.
And there's nothing wrong with making trendy music, and some of it can be good in a mix or played in a club or whatever. But don't call these people groundbreakers or the future sound of anything because they really aren't. It's simply wrong and mis-informed.
Why is Toronto's future sound, the sound of Paris or London 3 years ago?
My labels are in Europe...you know why ?
Because (like some who have said the same thing), Toronto has given me almost no support whatsoever.
I had to go to Germany, France and Scandinavia to get stuff played and records released...in fact I've done more gigs in Europe in the past 5 years than I've played here in Toronto in the last 10...I get records released over there because Toronto just doesn't get it. To paraphase some of the stuff that was said, I don't use gimmicks or write songs about "robot sex", or have a band name like *insert pretentious combination of swear words here*, I'm actually dumb enough to do music for the sake of the music.
The scene here doesn't support itself, it's too fractured, and there are too many factions and cliques and not enough alliances.
I guess I shouldn't throw any hate in, but if Crystal Castles are a benchmark, then we've realllllly lowered the bar.
I've seen quite a lot during the past 20 years, and I really miss the Twilight Zone, Lizard Lounge, Bar 23, Diamond, Copa, and Nuts and Bolts era.
Sure, every era has it's good and bad, but I find that too many kids are buying synthesizers, writing mediocre stuff, and gimmicks carry it, instead of the music.
Maybe I'm cynical, perhaps a bit bitter, (or maybe I'm just too OLD LOL) but that's just my .02
Cheers (and remember, the music is what's important!)
Dave
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its articles like this that really make artists bitter toward one another and just divides the scene even further. There is obviously some sore of agenda behind the writers choices.
Why not just discuss 10 cool artists? Why cause all this shit by naming "Toronto's 10 best artists for the Future" -- what gives you the right to make that statement NOW??
s h u t u p . . .
and Anna Von frances you sound really dumb in your post btw, honestly like someone who just starting throwing parties who knows not much about the music scene past or present.
What's wrong people? Aren't you content with your lives? Must you pick on these hard working artists? Put yourselves in their position. They didn't ask for this article to be published? You must be a pretty miserable person to direct such abuse to such people.
A message to Barbi: You shouldn't let the anonymous idiot bother you. You are doing good things for this city. The Anonymous person really has no clue about your history and i don't expect you have the time for such ignorant people in your very busy life.
Peace
Circa was packed and alive with youthful colourful young kids! They came out in droves to support their local talent. It was a truly exciting and positive vibe!
To all the haters out there: too bad you weren't part of it. You can sit at home with your boring lives and write on message boards all you like. You can stare at your computers trying to figure out what to do with your lives. Hating isn't going to get you anywhere.
Thank you Now magazine for having the insight to publish an article like this. Toronto artists really need a big push right now. This is a very healthy way to push the scene and have people recognize that we have talent in our own back yard. Kudos to Ben Boles for writing this article. It will be interesting to see what happens to these artists in the next few years. They all seem to have their own vibes going on. Just give them all the time to develop and support them all the way!
...BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
also, why is there a hatiras & jelo track in the mix...what does they have to do with any of these artists?
FUCK 'EM HATERZZ Y'ALL!!
Anyone know how to play gaytar? I want to learn some riffs and start a band so i can play sneaky dees.
I think I saw some girls i knew from high school.
There were people that were cool. But i liked the girls.
Next time im going to wear my see thru mesh shirt with my tight japanese salvage denim and spray my special cologne so i can for sure pick up nice girls at party.
I think i heard a remix of a dance track!!!!!!!
techo blance 2009 partayyyy!!!!
I think I saw some girls i knew from high school.
There were people that were cool. But i liked the girls.
Next time im going to wear my see thru mesh shirt with my tight japanese salvage denim and spray my special cologne so i can for sure pick up nice girls at party.
I think i heard a remix of a dance track!!!!!!!
techo blance 2009 partayyyy!!!!
Fools.
Please keep the skin on top of the dickhead.
OK?
Please keep the skin on top of the dickhead.
OK?
Fools.
Also, Anna Von Frances fucking busts her ass in this city and is a fucking amazing promoter! As a promoter i know how fucking hard and thankless this job actually is and this fine woman deserves all the respect.
BOH!
Let's just have a good time
Toronto needs to wake up and appreciate these new producers! They are not going to raves partying hard and not getting any work done like back in the day. It's pretty obvious by how prolific some of these artists are like Loetech, Syntonics and Mansion.
Get Serious: you're a complete moron!
is this really relevant to the article? did your girlfriend leave you for a hot lesbian?
maybe you should think about what you eat and how often you bathe and maybe some hot lesbian will find you attractive...:)
THE LAST TIME I WAS IN MONTREAL, I ALMOST FELL ASLEEP IT WAS SO BORING! TORONTO HAS THE LIFE THAT MONTREAL USED TO HAVE! DON'T GET ME WRONG..MONTREAL IS A BEAUTIFUL CITY...BUT LAST TIME I WAS THERE I WAS BORED TO ALL HELL...SERIOULY..YOU ACTUALLY THINK THAT MONTREAL CAN COMPETE WITH OUR SCENE? HOW COME THE PEER PRESSURE PARTIES ARE MOVING HERE NOW? HUH?
Ps> If Now was really following what most trendsetting/tastemaking media sources were touting as the next shit that would be....yes....Disco. Do some research. Maybe the weblinks they were reading to figure this out were from 2004 or something.
Not fucking electro. Jesus, can you sound like more of a hick paper?
So, you idiots, stop holding Toronto responsible for the success of Crystal Castles, and try making the definable cities you highlight and hold us up to, like NYC or London, directly accountable instead--considering they've made more of a legitimate name for themselves over there than here.
Of course, we now see exactly the same thing playing out with newer Canadian dark disco acts, like that one from B.C. that gets mad UK mag love and next to no press here. It's like we never learn ... that, or we're all just so cool and above it all that "local" remains a four letter word, unless it's an breathy indie-folk-rock group w/ an album cover that features knitting or pictures of little birds. When will people open their eyes, can the hate, and just enjoy music?
Montreal does pretty well with stuff like Constellation Records, thats a globally recognised unique enough sound (yes I know its not dance music), and defines the city quite well. What does Toronto have?
This article in Now didnt provide much answers, to be honest.
i haven't been back here since I left that message last week. i had no idea it got this out of control. fantastic!
I couldn't be more proud of DJs in Toronto after reading this! When I left here in the 90s for NYC and then Europe, I was bored to tears by Toronto. I promised myself I would never come back. The self-hate and constant comparison to other cities, that couldn't give a shit (all mentioned above) was grinding me to a creative halt. Back then it was even more fractured, even more spiteful.
About a year ago, a lot of the people who work in the club community (and I'm talking overall here, not just a west end thing) started to notice that big out of town acts were not drawing the same anymore. that people were starting to spend 5 bones on locals instead because they were guaranteed a good time. So many out of towners were hit or miss, the people just stopped going as much. Of course that's not a sweeping catch-all statement (as in plenty of international shows did well), so relax.
For the first time ever, I was proud to be here, musically speaking--I've always been proud of the food, women, and festivals.
I don't need to give you my resume, (there is boat loads of misinformation from the comments above about the producers listed in the article, and that misinformation speaks for itself) but i will tell you this: i've worked in dance music all the western world for 11 years now and i've hated almost all of it for that time. the last electronic music album i bought was esg: a south bronx story. And this, this right here, this is the first time in the 15 years on and off I've lived in this gorgeously rich city that I have ever seen people supporting their own like this. I mean shit, brian and barbi are about ready to cut you for saying shit about OTHER ARTISTS yo!
we will never get forward comparing ourselves to other cities we see as better. and how do you plan on fostering these producers into something you can be proud of, if all you do is criticize and smack them down the second they get anything?
there isn't an artist on here who hasn't worked hard as fuck to get anything. and they have to hustle in the face of your bullshit every day. canadians and torontonians especially are tough and creative and open-minded people (and let's face it, we're pretty damn good in the sack as well), and you should be fiercely proud of anyone who gets positive recognition for that.
Do you think that the artists on the lists like EVERY track the other artists put out? Hell no. But at least they have enough class to respect them for it.
The fact that so many people in this rant feel that there are THAT many local artists that should have been on this list,but weren't (even though not many names have been mentioned) is something to be proud of in itself.
And finally, I couldn't be more proud to be included in this group of people you have shit on so liberally (again, without providing names of who you would put in there place as so many have pointed out). these people are representing our city internationally, whether you like it or not. They support each other, and they support Toronto, even in the face of all your hate, they still get up there and declare it like a badge of fucking honor. Interviews. Those damn blue jays hats. wearing clothes by local designers, claiming toronto bars are their fav's in articles internationally etc. etc.
And that is something I sure as hell can get behind.
Sidenote: I left my website up there in the first post because I thought that I would get direct emails, but no one did.
info@pinkmafia.ca is the general box, but it's hooked to my berry. Pink Mafia office: 416.929.3890
I am there 14 hours a day on average. And I would be happy to receive names of people you think should be getting more love in Toronto, I am always always searching for new talent to promote in the city or hook up with another promoter if i don't have anything that fits.
INTELLEGENIX RELEASES
1. SYNTONICS-"RMX-KLX"
2. INTELLEGENIX-COMP. 1
3. CRYOGENETIC-"LAST GLANCE"
4. INTELLEGENIX- COMP. 2 PREVIEW E.P.
5. CRYOGENETIC-"ELECTRO RD."
6. SYNTONICS-"VERB SYNTHESIS"
7. CRYOGENETIC-"FREEZE FRAMES"
8. CRYOGENETIC-"INSIDE YOU"
9. CRYOGENETIC-"DISCHARGE"
10. CRYOGENETIC-"Q-STUN"
11. SYNTONICS-"NEXUS REALITY"
12. CRYOGENETIC-"SIGMUND"
13. DRUG SNIFFIN' DOGZ-"NOSEY NIGGAZ"
14. CRYOGENETIC-"SIDETRACKED"
15. CRYOGENETIC-"LIVE SEXXX"
16. CRYOGENETIC-"PT. 3"
17. CRYOGENETIC-"SKEPTICAL"
18. CRYOGENETIC-"PT. 2"
19. Q*BIX-"Q*BEATS"
20. DATUS- "PAST THE PRESENT"
21. SYSTEMATIC- "ELECTRO NEMISIS"
22. DARK ALLIANCE-"SATELLITE COMMUNICATION"
23. VARIOUS ARTIST UNRELEASED
24. DATUS-"CRYOGENETIC PT. 1"
It is going a little too far to say that Toronto shit on their own. House and Electro have been around for a long time but only recently have emerged into the main stream and gotten the attention it deserves/lack of.
The Guvernment was always a house scene amongst a few other clubs, (until the recent invasion of z1035 turning it into a top 40 scene, though the gallery still thrives). And just that seems to have happened to the electro/house scene of toronto. Too many hipsters jumped on the bandwagon and think they know something about it or just go along with it because it HAS become the scene. HOUSE/ELECTRO is becoming top40.
These artists mentioned have been around for a while, and where did most of them get there start?? Definitely not at CiRCA.
I remember seeing many of the listed acts at Guvernment before anyone even knew who they were. Respect to them, they are doing big things and will continue to do big things. Many of us have consumed electronica and house way before the rest of canadians started too--way before indie at the horseshoe was even big. (mind you still rocks- lets not bash the shoe)
& there are MANY more unlisted DJ's who are the NEXT big thing, because as far as i'm concerned, majority of the artists that are listed here as supposedly the FUTURE sound of toronto are in fact already YESTERDAYS SOUND.
The only ones on that list that have even a chance of becoming world renowned would have to be DEADMAU5 because, well look at what he's already done for himself. He's LEGIT. In it for the long run, up there with tiesto. The rest? OLD NEWS. good day.
Electro is an artistic musical form in the wide world of electronic music culture. With few exceptions, the definition of the electro sound is the use of drum machines as the rhythmic base of a track. Rhythm patterns tend to be electronic emulations of breakbeats, with syncopated kick drums, and usually a snare or clap accenting the downbeat. The definition however is somewhat ambiguous in nature due to the various use of the term[5].
Staccato, percussive rhythms dominate electro, with beats often provided by the Roland TR-808 drum machine. The TR-808, created in 1980, has an immediately recognizable sound, and remains popular in electro and other genres to the present day. Other electro instrumentation is generally all-electronic, favoring analog synthesis, funk-style bass lines, sequenced or arpeggiated synthetic riffs, and atonal sound effects all created with synthesizers. Heavy use of effects such as reverbs, delays, chorus or phasers along with synthetic ensemble strings or pad sounds emphasize the common science fiction or futuristic theme of the lyrics and/or music. Most electro is instrumental, but a common element is vocals processed through a vocoder. Additionally, speech synthesis may be used to create robotic or mechanical lyrical content. Some earlier electro features rapping, but that lyrical style has become less popular in the genre from the 1990s onward.
Electro music was pioneered by the German musical group Kraftwerk, in the mid 1970s[6]. Following the decline of disco music in the late 1970s, various electro-funk artists such as Zapp & Roger began experimenting with vocoders and the use of heavier, more distinctive beats. This style held little resemblence to that of Kraftwerk. In 1982, Bronx based producer Afrika Bambaataa released the seminal track "Planet Rock", which contained elements of Kraftwerk's Trans-Europe Express and "Numbers" (from Kraftwerk's Computer World album).[1].
In 1983, Hashim (Jerry Calliste Jr) who created the influential electro funk tune "Al-Naafiysh (The Soul)" which became Cutting Record's first release in November of 1983[7]. At the time Hashim was influenced by Man Parrish's "Hip Hop Be Bop", Thomas Dolby's "She Blinded Me With Science" and Afrika Bambaataa's "Planet Rock" [8]. Also in 1983, Herbie Hancock, in collaboration with Grand Mixer DXT, released the hit single Rockit.
Bambaataa and groups like Planet Patrol, Jonzun Crew, Mantronix, Newcleus and Juan Atkins' Detroit-based group Cybotron went on to influence the genres of Detroit techno, ghettotech, breakbeat, drum and bass and electroclash. Early producers in the electro genre (notably Arthur Baker[9], John Robie, Shep Pettibone, and the Latin Rascals) featured prominently in the Latin Freestyle (or simply "Freestyle") movement. By the late 1980s, the genre had parted from its initial funk influences. Baker and Pettibone enjoyed robust careers well into the house era, and both eluded the "genre trap" to successfully produce mainstream artists.[10]
Although the early 1980s were electro's heyday in the mainstream, it enjoyed renewed popularity in the late 1990s with artists such as Drexciya, Anthony Rother, DMX Krew, Mr Velcro Fastener and Dopplereffekt and DJs such as Dave Clarke. The continued interest in electro, though influenced to a great degree by Detroit, Miami, Los Angeles and New York styles, has primarily taken hold in Europe with electro club nights becoming commonplace again. The scene still manages to support hundreds of electro labels, from the disco electro of Clone Records, to the b-boy style of Breakin' Records, and the electrofunk of Citinite.
A new branch of electro, Skweee, has risen over the last couple of years from Nordic countries such as Sweden and Finland, hence its first name "Scandinavian Funk". The outlets and artists of Skweee are still mostly limited to the Nordic countries.
sociopath, impotence, unemployed perhaps? bored?
Some people get off on playing with other people's confidence.
I bet you this person lurks behind all kinds of message boards of different a nature. Maybe this is what this person does in his/her spare time. Just watching and checking on the reaction that his/her comments get.
Maybe next time think twice before you decide to get on a message board. Some of you have wasted too much energy. This Get Serious person is obviously sick.
sociopath, impotence, unemployed perhaps? bored?
Some people get off on playing with other people's confidence.
I bet you this person lurks behind all kinds of message boards of different a nature. Maybe this is what this person does in his/her spare time. Just watching and checking on the reaction that his/her comments get.
Maybe next time think twice before you decide to get on a message board. Some of you have wasted too much energy. This Get Serious person is obviously sick.
sociopath, impotence, unemployed perhaps? bored?
Some people get off on playing with other people's confidence.
I bet you this person lurks behind all kinds of message boards of different a nature. Maybe this is what this person does in his/her spare time. Just watching and checking on the reaction that his/her comments get.
Maybe next time think twice before you decide to get on a message board. Some of you have wasted too much energy. This Get Serious person is obviously sick.
Out of all that I said up there, the best you can do is "ESG made music with instruments" I'm aware of the entire history of the "four sisters from the bronx" the clubs they played, how ufo is the most sampled song in hip hop to date, that it was a b side created on the fly blah blah blah.
Maybe I should have said "dance music", is there a term you would prefer I use? and come to think of it, I do own Pretty Hate Machine, which was made with a lot of synths. Does it count as dance music though? I'm not really sure. Maybe I should get you to come over and give me a lesson on the history of music. Clearly, I'm doing a really shitty job with what I already know.
Again, 416.929.3890 is my office. Still waiting for the call with the list of people we should be working with.
I think it's a bit of an ego thing as well - "why are these people 'The Future'? My cousin works his ass off and his shit is unique! These people are just catering to a 'trendy' scene! They all sound the same!"
Listen, the proper mechanisms of a particular music scene depend on a collective of similar sounding artists. This is where some artists run into a wall - buying too heavily into the notion that one has to sound 'completely unique'. I once read a music industry-related article - to quote.."make your oranges orange, not blue - nobody buys blue oranges".
If each of those artists listed had a definitive, unique sound...they would not work together as an emerging body of Toronto representation.
And, for the record..I do think we have our own sound. For instance; We don't quite sound like Paris and/or the notable "Ed Banger Records"..but we are similar enough to be played side by side. Maybe that's just my observation.
The article works as a solid presentation. People at NOW have deadlines.
Learn how things work, I guess.
Also, here's another question, how many electronic acts in toronto actually make serious $$$. Hmm, let's see. MSTRKRFT for sure, but they'll probably move to LA, Miami or Berlin soon. Crystal Castles probably, but they better save their money because their days are numbered. Fritz Helder and the Phantoms have their Nelly Furtado $$$ and if they tone down the gayness they might have a pop crossover hit sooner or later. Thunderheist probably make a bit of money. Deadmaus makes coin, but his drug habit is pretty bad so he'll probably OD some time soon.
As for Anna Von Frances there isn't a bandwagon she wont hump on, literally. Forget her resume, check out her dating history, it's like a musical landscape of the Canadian music scene.
But she does have a point, I've never seen Torontonians this hyped about local music before, and we have people like Anna to thank for that. It's not just the musicians, but the promoters and club-owners who created the scene and the environment that allows local acts to grow and prosper. Check out the Drugmoney blog, they just released a mix of local acts that played Fuckfaces shows, the number of acts on the list who played their first shows for DM is impressive.
If Electronic Dance Music isn't your thing and you're a Wavelength indie snob, what's the point of hating? I'm just worried a bit because the entire mixed format thing seems to be coming to an end -- it was where indie kids learned to dance to The Rapture -- now things are becoming more rigid again, and a lot of genre specific nights -- i.e. house only on vinyl are popping up all over the place. But it was bound to happen -- if I had to hear another banger mash-up I'd probably shoot myself.
Forget about the travesty that was nu-rave, forget the hipster bullshit, Toronto has a ton of talented producers and its become a super-competitive place, where you have to pick up your game if u want to get to the top. This summer Toronto will explode, the funny thing is most people in the city probably wont notice until the acts who blown up have moved to Berlin.
Also, here's another question, how many electronic acts in toronto actually make serious $$$. Hmm, let's see. MSTRKRFT for sure, but they'll probably move to LA, Miami or Berlin soon. Crystal Castles probably, but they better save their money because their days are numbered. Fritz Helder and the Phantoms have their Nelly Furtado $$$ and if they tone down the gayness they might have a pop crossover hit sooner or later. Thunderheist probably make a bit of money. Deadmaus makes coin, but his drug habit is pretty bad so he'll probably OD some time soon.
As for Anna Von Frances there isn't a bandwagon she wont hump on, literally. Forget her resume, check out her dating history, it's like a musical landscape of the Canadian music scene.
But she does have a point, I've never seen Torontonians this hyped about local music before, and we have people like Anna to thank for that. It's not just the musicians, but the promoters and club-owners who created the scene and the environment that allows local acts to grow and prosper. Check out the Drugmoney blog, they just released a mix of local acts that played Fuckfaces shows, the number of acts on the list who played their first shows for DM is impressive.
If Electronic Dance Music isn't your thing and you're a Wavelength indie snob, what's the point of hating? I'm just worried a bit because the entire mixed format thing seems to be coming to an end -- it was where indie kids learned to dance to The Rapture -- now things are becoming more rigid again, and a lot of genre specific nights -- i.e. house only on vinyl are popping up all over the place. But it was bound to happen -- if I had to hear another banger mash-up I'd probably shoot myself.
Forget about the travesty that was nu-rave, forget the hipster bullshit, Toronto has a ton of talented producers and its become a super-competitive place, where you have to pick up your game if u want to get to the top. This summer Toronto will explode, the funny thing is most people in the city probably wont notice until the acts who blown up have moved to Berlin.
Also, here's another question, how many electronic acts in toronto actually make serious $$$. Hmm, let's see. MSTRKRFT for sure, but they'll probably move to LA, Miami or Berlin soon. Crystal Castles probably, but they better save their money because their days are numbered. Fritz Helder and the Phantoms have their Nelly Furtado $$$ and if they tone down the gayness they might have a pop crossover hit sooner or later. Thunderheist probably make a bit of money. Deadmaus makes coin, but his drug habit is pretty bad so he'll probably OD some time soon.
As for Anna Von Frances there isn't a bandwagon she wont hump on, literally. Forget her resume, check out her dating history, it's like a musical landscape of the Canadian music scene.
But she does have a point, I've never seen Torontonians this hyped about local music before, and we have people like Anna to thank for that. It's not just the musicians, but the promoters and club-owners who created the scene and the environment that allows local acts to grow and prosper. Check out the Drugmoney blog, they just released a mix of local acts that played Fuckfaces shows, the number of acts on the list who played their first shows for DM is impressive.
If Electronic Dance Music isn't your thing and you're a Wavelength indie snob, what's the point of hating? I'm just worried a bit because the entire mixed format thing seems to be coming to an end -- it was where indie kids learned to dance to The Rapture -- now things are becoming more rigid again, and a lot of genre specific nights -- i.e. house only on vinyl are popping up all over the place. But it was bound to happen -- if I had to hear another banger mash-up I'd probably shoot myself.
Forget about the travesty that was nu-rave, forget the hipster bullshit, Toronto has a ton of talented producers and its become a super-competitive place, where you have to pick up your game if u want to get to the top. This summer Toronto will explode, the funny thing is most people in the city probably wont notice until the acts who blown up have moved to Berlin.
"who mentioned you barbie? a little touchy now aren't we? you're talking like you've been around since it all began here, truth be said no one knew your name a few years ago. Homework ... ha
s h u t u p . . . "
....interesting...i guess that you're the only one on this message board that didn't do their homework seeing that many people on here know about my credible past in the music industry...
where were you in '92/'93? i know where i was...playing raves for Destiny, Dose, Nitrous and Liquid Adrenaline as part of early 90's techno/rave group "POSITRONIC BRAIN" ..not to mention my Deep House project in '91, "Dante" , which spurned 12inch releases from Radikal Record (Belgium)....
it's so funny how some people just love to listen to themselves talk.....
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